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TLarson
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 Posted - 15/09/2012 : 21:44:07
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I am trying to figure out when and on what ship Lars and Kari Flyum came to America on. I have found them in several different census records.
In the 1895 MN state census Lars is listed as a resident of the state for 24 years. and the enumeration district of Brandon, Douglas County for 12 years.
In the 1900 census Lars is listed as imigrating in 1872 and Kari is listed as immigrating in 1868.
In the 1910 census Lars is listed as immigrating in 1871 and Kari is listed as immigarting in 1865.
Kari's maiden name was Melaas and she was born in 1840.
So, what I would like to start with is finding when they came to America and on what ship and where they came to. Kari may have gone to relatives in Ulen, MN, but I'm not sure.
I can't seem to find Lars and Kari in the 1880 US census. I believe they were married in 1875
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Edited by - TLarson on 15/09/2012 21:49:16 |
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jwiborg
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TLarson
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 01:40:51
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Does the birth register say that Lars was born Aug. 1, 1833 and baptized Sept. 22, 1833? And he was baptized at Vuku church?
I think the two census records you found for 1880 and 1900 should be the correct couple.
Is the emigration record from Trondheim saying that Lars is going to Mankato leaving 4-3-1871?
That must be the correct Kari she was born 1840. It's not likely there were many others with that name born the same year..
It also must be her in the family list.
What is the page that comes up from "link 2"? I see many familiar names, but just wanted to ask.
Does Kari's emigration say that she's going to Mc Gregor? Where would this be? And is the Ole Olsen Meland (Melaas?) going to the same place? This Ole is 8 year younger and Kari had a younger brother Ole that was born in 1849. I know that her brother Ole did emigrate to America. Could this be him? Is there a way to look at the handwritten record of this emigration?
I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "Could she be the one indexed as "Har Olsdotter" (28)"...
I hope these questions/confirmation can help find more info.
Thanks!
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 01:53:46
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Originally posted by TLarson
Does the birth register say that Lars was born Aug. 1, 1833 and baptized Sept. 22, 1833?Yes And he was baptized at Vuku church?Yes
I think the two census records you found for 1880 and 1900 should be the correct couple.
Is the emigration record from Trondheim saying that Lars is going to Mankato leaving 4-3-1871?Going to Mankato on 03 APR 1871
That must be the correct Kari she was born 1840. It's not likely there were many others with that name born the same year..
It also must be her in the family list.
What is the page that comes up from "link 2"? I see many familiar names, but just wanted to ask.The database is named "Emigrants from Gran 1825-1900 and Jevnaker 1837-1901"
Does Kari's emigration say that she's going to Mc Gregor? Yes
Where would this be? McGregor, Clayton, Iowa
And is the Ole Olsen Meland (Melaas?) going to the same place?Yes
This Ole is 8 year younger and Kari had a younger brother Ole that was born in 1849. I know that her brother Ole did emigrate to America. Could this be him?Yes
Is there a way to look at the handwritten record of this emigration?Not online, but the State Archive have it
I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "Could she be the one indexed as "Har Olsdotter" (28)"... http://www.ancestry.com/ have a female listed as Har Olsdotter (28) arriving New York on July 1st, 1869. She seems to be Kari Olsdatter Melaas.
I hope these questions/confirmation can help find more info.
Thanks!
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TLarson
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:07:14
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For the "Emigrants from Gran" list are they all emigrating at the same time in 1869 or just within that year?
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TLarson
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:12:36
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:13:01
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ps: I haven't seen anything that connect this Lars Eriksen born 01 Aug 1833, to a farm called Flyum.
But there is a farm called Flyum next to the Holmlie farm where this Lars was born. The farm is today called Flyan, and is located in Vuku, Verdal, Nord Trøndelag.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:16:12
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Could you help me find Lars' baptism record?
#16
A man called Thore Flyum is one of the godparents.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:19:12
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Originally posted by TLarson
For the "Emigrants from Gran" list are they all emigrating at the same time in 1869 or just within that year?
The emigrant Year + Month is column 6 and 7.
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TLarson
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:19:25
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It would make sense that it might be the correct person - interesting about the location of Holmlie - My ggggrandmother on the other side of my family was from the Holmlie farm.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 02:53:48
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TLarson
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 03:18:34
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It looks like one of the godparents is Gunbjorn Kolstad - I had a gggggrandfather by this name. He was born in 1802. Where would the Kolstad farm be in respect to the Holmlie farm?
How far would the Holmlie farm be from the Flyum (Flyan) farm. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 03:41:18
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The distance between Holmlia and Flyan is 1km (1000 meter, 0.62 miles or 3300 ft)
It should take you 2 minutes by car, or less than 10 minutes by walking... The distance from Flyan to Kolstad is 3km (1.9 miles)
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TLarson
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 03:48:43
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 04:04:26
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Originally posted by TLarson
Could you help me find Kari's baptismal record?
#39 Kari
Born 04 Feb 1840
Chr 16 Feb 1840, Lund, Jevnaker, Oppland
Parents: Ole Hansen Melaas & Marte Olsdatter
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jwiborg
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Posted - 16/09/2012 : 04:35:46
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Marriage record #5, 24 Jun 1824
Erich Olsen Wester Holmlie, 27 y.o.
Anne Gundbiornsdatter Øster Holmlie, 31 y.o.
Marriage date: 24 Jun 1824
Marriage place: Vuku, Verdal, Nord-Trøndelag
Best men: Ole Erichsen Wester Holmlie, Ole Pettersen Øster Holmlie.
Wester Holmlie = Holmlie west
Øster Holmlie = Holmlie east
Erich Olsen Wester Holmlie is born 01 Dec 1797
Census-1801
Parents are Ole Erichssen & Ragnild Andersdtr at Holmlie Wester farm.
Anne Gundbiornsdatter Øster Holmlie is born 25 Feb 1793 (right page)
Census-1801
Parents are Gundbiorn Mikkelsen (from chr.record) and Sunnie Sivertsdatter (from census-1801)
Sunnie is in her 2nd marriage in 1801. She have 5 children with Gundbiorn and 1 son with Ole Peterssen.
Gundbiorn Michelson & Sunnie Sivertsdr
Marriage date: 05 Jan 1786, Verdal, Nord Trøndelag, Norway
Ole Petersen & Sunnie Sivertsdr
Marriage date: 22 Feb 1798, Verdal, Nord Trøndelag, Norway
Seems like Gundbiorn Michelson could have died in 1797.
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