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NancyDaniels
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USA
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 Posted - 13/11/2012 : 15:28:25
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Hi,
I've just gotten use to the Norwegian naming pattern: Last name of child is fathers first name with either sen (for male) or datter (for female) added to it, when I find a family where that is NOT the case. I believe the info I have on this family is correct but I am second guessing it because of the deviation from the naming pattern. Can you help?
This is what I have:
Kristian DYRESEN b 1/18/1866 in Stange m Petronelle JANSDATTER b abt 1864 in Valset.
They married 2/10/1888 in Valset and had the following children:
Didrick DYRESEN b 5/19/1889 in Valset
Hanna DYRESEN b abt 1890 in Valset
Jorgen DYRESEN b abt 1892 in Valset
Anne DYRESEN b abt 1894 in Valset
Konrad DYRESEN b 7/9/1897 in Vang
Petra Dyresen b 11/8/1899 in Kristiana
Based on the previouos generations naming pattern, shouldn't the children's last name be Kristiansen or Kristiandatter?
Did I put the children with the wrong parents?
Thought i was getting the hang of researching in Norway, but now I'm not so sure
I appreciate any direction you might give,
Regards,
Nancy A. Daniels
Cape Cod, MA, USA
nancy.daniels@comcast.net
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 13/11/2012 : 15:40:13
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I think you are "getting the hang of it" - but in every situation no rules without an exception.
Need more time to look at the children you have posted - anyhow where did you get their full names?
In the 1900 census Kristiania Kristian Dyresens wife, Petronelle Jonsdatter, is there listed as Petra Dyresen, all the children have also been given the last name Dyresen, see here. The recording person might very well be the origin of the changes, othe families are in the same situation.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/11/2012 16:16:14 |
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NancyDaniels
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 13/11/2012 : 15:49:15
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| I found Konrad on a Family Search Database entitled Norway Baptisms 1634-1927. The other children were from a response to a previous message on the General Discussion Board on this site from Jan Peter (jwiborg) on Oct 10, 2012. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 13/11/2012 : 16:40:19
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Your Petronelle Jansdatter should be Petronell Johnsdatter, she was born April 23 1864, see #87, her parents were John Pedersen and Anne Nielsdatter, Sætereie.
Based on the baptismal record for Didrik, see #11 it would be reasonable to conclude that his last name should be Kristiansen.
Hannas baptismal record, she was born March 29 1891, see #6 should be Kristiansdatter. However in 1930 she got permission to change her last name "Dyresen" (change to Dyresen must have taken place between 1891 and 1930) to Dahl.
Jørgens baptismal record is #13, born April 6 1893 - last name should be Kristiansen.
Anne, born April 8 1895, see #17 - last name Kristiansdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/11/2012 17:05:13 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/11/2012 : 18:39:41
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quote:
Originally posted by NancyDaniels
Hi,
I've just gotten use to the Norwegian naming pattern: Last name of child is fathers first name with either sen (for male) or datter (for female) added to it.
(...)
I appreciate any direction you might give,
Regards,
Nancy A. Daniels
Cape Cod, MA, USA
nancy.daniels@comcast.net
Hi Nancy,
the Norwegian naming pattern you refer to ended more than 100 years ago, at the end of the 1800-century. The farmers were those who used patronymic longest, and with the naming law of 1923, a familyname became mandatory for everyone. Iceland still have this patronyic naming pattern in use.
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NancyDaniels
Starting member
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Posted - 13/11/2012 : 19:28:53
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And this was about the end of the 1800's so that may explain it.
Thanks, Jan!
Nancy |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/11/2012 : 17:00:19
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| Yes and many Norwegian families took a place name or other alternative as a permanent surname, dropping the patronymic. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/11/2012 : 20:06:57
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They did, and some moved several times and changed lastname every time 
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/11/2012 : 23:07:51
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Looking at the naming practice in the 1900 census you will see a difference between rural practices and city practices, examples
From Romedal, Hedmark
Kristian Martinussen Lien Hf
Marthe Marie Martinusdatter Hm
Einar Marius Kristiansen Søn
Marie Mathilde Kristiansdatter Datter
Elevine Olaug Kristiansdatter Datter
Eivind Asbjørn Kristiansen Søn
From Sigdal, Buskerud
Hans Knutsen Bergan hf
Karoline Torgersdatter Bergan hm
The!! Hansdatter Bergan datter
Kaia Hansdatter Bergan datter
Thorvall Hansen Bergan søn
Olav Hansen Bergan søn
Dagny Hansdatter Bergan datter
Emil Hansen Bergan søn
From Oslo
Theodor Løvstad hf
Sidonie Løvstad hm
Brinck Løvstad søn
Arnljot Løvstad søn
Trygve Løvstad søn
Leif Løvstad søn
Bergljot Løvstad datter
Dagfin Løvstad søn
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Paternal Naming Patterns
