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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 08/02/2013 :  10:08:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Corrected "øsytre Cammerfoss under Aasen" to østre Cammerfoss under Aasen = eastern Cammerfoss under Aasen.
Sorry for the misprint.
Btw Halvors father was working on a sawmill.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 08/02/2013 11:54:21
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ngcart
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Posted - 11/02/2013 :  10:11:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good Evening (or Good Morning),

I think I am getting a pretty good handle on Louise's real family now (and a real headache to go with it - she had 3 of 4 grt grandmothers with patronymic Larsdatter).

Days later and I am finally starting on the Halvor Thoresen line that Einar made some comments about on 8 Feb. It has been a challenge and I need some help. His father, Thore Halvorsen married Maren Larsd. 10 Sep 1820 as shown here: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?urnread_imagesize=gigant&info=ingen&hode=nei&show=140&uid=858408&js=j

Can anyone translate where they were born please? I have found Maren's early death on 23 Apr 1831, but not her birth. I did find Thore in 1865 living with a new wife (well, newer than Maren) and a 31 yr old son Nils by the later wife. This was helpful, even essential, in determining I had the right family.

Thore Halvors. parents have odd names from what I am assuming is his birth record, and he should have been 5 years old in 1801 but I can't find them. I read there names as Halvor Andsteensen and Anne Hierstine Nielsdatter. Is there anything else you can derive from the record?

His birth record is at http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?urnread_imagesize=big&info=ingen&hode=nei&show=146&uid=861471&js=j

Thanks very much!

Nick
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ngcart
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Posted - 12/02/2013 :  02:02:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, I just checked my URLs and I see they don't seem to work from here. Here is better info for anyone who might want to help:

Thore Halvorsen married Maren Larsd. 10 Sep 1820 in Sannidal, Telemark as shown on item 24 of 1820 Sannidal marriages. (This link should work: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_id=7846 to get you to starting page where you can select 1820 marriages starting on page 204)

Next, Thore Halvorsen's birth in July 1796 is also in Sannidal, Telemark as shown at top of page 151 of Birth and baptism records for 1796:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_id=7843

Is there help availabe for turning on HTML, and how to create working links? How about attaching images? Is that allowed?

Thanks again.

Nick
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Hopkins
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Posted - 12/02/2013 :  02:45:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When you've studied and used the instructions and been able to find a scanned page on the Digitalarkivet that you'd like to capture as a URL to share with someone else or save for your family history documentation - just copying the URL that your browser shows will NOT provide a working link for longer than about 1/2 an hour -- it only works very temporarily.

Working direct links to the scanned images on the Digitalarkivet can be copied and pasted from the desired page from a display option available. At the top of the scanned image page is an option labeled "Bildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Image Information"[English version] which is by default set to "Ingen" [Norwegian version]/"None" [English version]. Change that and magic is available. Of the three options I like "Øverst" [Norwegian version]/"On top" [English version] because it puts the additional information across the top of the page and is usually easier for me to see.

The first line "Kildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Source information" [English version] is a really nice summary of the source of the information and is wonderful to have for making detailed source citations, footnotes, etc.

The second line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] is the best line to capture if you want to save the exact URL location or share the actual scanned image and the source information. It allows the full capabilities for zooming in and out to best view the image and informs the recipient of the exact location, book and other details to be able to find WHERE you found the information.

The third line "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] is the best used to print a copy of the image or to save a copy of the image in a jpg format computer file. This line does NOT also capture the source information and therefore is NOT the best line to copy to share online when requesting help or assistance in deciphering the image found.

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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ngcart
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Posted - 12/02/2013 :  03:12:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very helpful and clearly explained Hopkins. Thank you. I will try to internalize it by repeating my message above with direct links.

Thore Halvorsen married Maren Larsd. 10 Sep 1820 in Sannidal, Telemark as shown here: #24
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7846&idx_id=7846&uid=ny&idx_side=-140

Thore Halvorsen's birth in July 1796 is also in Sannidal, Telemark; 1st item on page:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7843&idx_id=7843&uid=ny&idx_side=-146

To repeat my original request, I am looking for help on where it states they were born in marriage record, and any helpful translations of what is in the birth record.

Thanks.

Nick
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2013 :  07:27:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I read #24 as follows:
Bachelor and worker Thore Halvorsen, Cammerfoss 22 years of age Born in Blankenborg waic.
maiden Maren Larsdatter, Cammerfoss 28 years of age have had small pox.

Einar
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