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jkmarler
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 Posted - 10/03/2013 : 03:22:47
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There is a remote possibility this Hans in the 1900 census of Sarpsborg may be yours:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&a=b&filnamn=f00102
And then again maybe not #661 entry says he's from Slidre in Valders:
Source information: Østfold county, Sarpsborg Metodistkirke in Dissentersamfunn, Dissenters register nr. 4 (1892-1923), Joining the congregation 1901, page 7.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4128&idx_id=4128&uid=ny&idx_side=-9
Hans Larsen #69
Source information: Oppland county, Vestre Slidre, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1865-1880), Birth and baptism records 1878, page 101.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6133&idx_id=6133&uid=ny&idx_side=-101
This is Hans Larsen leaving #5 on right hand page headed to Kristiania:
Source information: Oppland county, Slidre in Vestre Slidre, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1881-1911), Emigration records 1893-1899, page 130.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4077&idx_id=4077&uid=ny&idx_side=-128
In the dissenteres book his entry is actually lined through. I checked the deaths register from 1897-1920 and the leaving the congregation register from 1899-1920 and Hans Larsen doesn't appear on either list. Did he fall out of faith?
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eibache
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Posted - 10/03/2013 : 11:10:17
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In Dordeis Baptismal record both parents are listed as born 1877.
Anne Paulsdatters baptismal record says she was born Dec 9 1876, #3.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/03/2013 : 20:41:32
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Yes, and Anne died in 1909, Dordei was raised in her retired grandmother's home to at least 1910.
If the Begnadalen clue is to be trusted, considering the lack of records in which Hans Larsen b 1875 might be found, it might be worth a search in the newly digitized online of the 1891 census. My experience in the 1891 has been very painful thus far--is there an online tutorial for using it?
Did find another Hans Larsen in Begnadalen just outside the +/- 5 years of 1877 in the 1891 census. He born 1871, #3715 in Begnadalen. Father is Lars Torgrimson. Still not sure I'm using 1891 info correctly... |
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soa
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Posted - 11/03/2013 : 13:47:30
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Yes, you are correct about that, my grandmother grew up with her grandmother.
Thank you for all your help again! |
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jkmarler
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soa
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Posted - 12/03/2013 : 11:24:03
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| Yes, that's the Hans Larsen at Tonserud, Interesting, you have found a lot informatin on that guy, Funny if a guy should not have been registered at all, but at that time it might have been possible, moving around a lot, doing different work, often i small areas. Thanks again! |
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soa
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Posted - 12/03/2013 : 11:27:54
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| The Hans Julius Bertrand Holm from Hønefoss, i have looked into before, and i don't think he is the right guy, but will look at him again. |
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jkmarler
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soa
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Posted - 13/03/2013 : 21:10:37
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| Hi, and thanks again. The Hans Larsen in Hurum is a little far from the original information on "my" Hans Larsen, i don't think this is him. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/03/2013 : 23:46:50
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Okay, knowing the railroad crews were in Hallingdal during the 19 oughts (the train completed in 1909) I looked through the baptismal records of the Hallingdal parishes and dates and found no other Hans Larsen fathers associated with the train. You might want to check them as well, just in case I missed someone or to expand the dates on Aal & Gol especially or earlier dates for all.
Hol 1900-1911
Aal 1905-1911
Gol 1905-1911
Flå 1901-1912
Nes 1901-1911
Hemsedal 1900-1911
I also checked the faddernes of these children of his brother Lars Larsen in Aadahlen and Røyken born before 1901 (Inga, Sigurd, Ragna, Kristian, Jenny and Anna), brother Ole Andreas Larsen in Begnadalen (Lars, Ragnhild, Nils, Ingeborg, Ole) and sister Inger Larsdatter in Hedal (Ole, Lars, Gudbrand, Sigurd, Maria, Kristian) but Hans never served for any of these. The brother Lars was still in the baby business after 1901 so there is a possibility there. Not sure about the other sisters, though Inger and either sister Ragnhild Larsdatter (or mother Ragnhild) appear in the faddernes of Ragnhild the daughter of Ole Andreas Larsen. As far as I saw that was the only time a Lars son or datter were in the faddernes' amongst all these children.
Of all the clues about him to my way of thinking the Begnadalen one "has legs". Even if he weren't from Begnadalen he most likely was still from Valdres otherwise how would he be a "wild Valdres person?" Birth years are variable, as we have seen. But if the man were prone to dissembling, this information could be all made up--manufactured--that is. One other place where there might be records on him, if he was prone to fighting and getting in trouble--could he be in the Norwegian equivalent of a police blotter or criminal court?
Where did he get the Holm designation is another question--nothing readily apparent there but does beg a question that he might have used completely different last names in the 1900 and 1910 census (minus Larsen of course) and thus be obscured.
Good luck to you in this search. You actually have more clues to your guy than a lot of folks in the same situation and happily he isn't an Ole Olsen! |
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