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stevehogseth
Junior member
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Posted - 02/05/2013 : 19:48:21
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Jens Pedersen Hogseth immigrated to the USA in the 1870’s or 1880’s, coming to Wisconsin. He was from Elverum Norway, born approx 1856. He was the son of Peder Johnsen (b. 1821) and Marte Olsdatter (b. 1822) and a brother of Martin Hogseth (b.1862). Martin immigrated to Wisconsin, USA, and he was my grandfather. He died in 1944. I believe it was sometime in the late 1880’s or early 1990’s that Jens disappeared, never to be heard from again. Whether he took the name Hogseth or Pedersen, I do not know. Any information you can provide on his immigration date, actual birth date, or any other information would be most appreciated, as I would like to solve his eventual whereabouts and life. Thanks much! --Steve Hogseth |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/05/2013 : 20:23:33
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#172 Jens Born 09 Nov 1855 Chr: 26 Dec 1855, Elverum, Hedmark Parents: Peder Johnsen Hogset & Marthe Olsdr Source: Hedmark county, Elverum, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1843-1856), Birth and baptism records 1856, page 89.
Hogseth in Elverum are mentioned in Elverum bygdebok (Elverum farmhistory book) Volume 4, page 250 and 258, and volume 5, page 328. Maybe worth a look... Jan Peter |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/05/2013 : 23:15:10
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Jens Pedersen Hogseth em. 1882, dest Trempealeau, on ship Rollo leaving Oslo April 20 for Hull England with 708 emigrants link With him was a sister Juline link
Juline Pedersdatter was born on Hogseth Dec. 26. 1865, see #41
Em from Elverum April 14. 1882, Lh #157&158
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/05/2013 : 15:39:30
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quote: Originally posted by Kåarto
Em from Elverum April 14. 1882, Lh #157&158
Gudor C. Laken who married Julina Pedersdatter Hogseth in Wisc. 1887 was bachelor Johan Gudor Kristoffersen Løken from Elverum, em. with Jens Pedersen Hogseth and Juline Pedersdatter Hogseth 1882 to Trempealeau, see # 159 in the em. record and the records on S/S Rollo leaving Oslo above.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2013 : 20:53:47
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1900 Washburn Township, Bayfield, Wisconsin Gudor Locker 39 born about 1861 in Norway Julia Locker 34 wife born about 1866 in Norway (Juline Pedersdatter Hogseth) Oellia Locker 10 daughter born about 1890 in Wisconsin Pauline Locker 8 born in Wisconsin George Locker 5 born about 1895 in Wisconsin
1910 Williams County, North Dakota Guda Loken 48 b abt 1862 Juline Loken 44 b abt 1866 Pauline Loken 18 b abt 1892 George Loken 15 b abt 1895 Wisconsin Christina Loken 10 Martin Loken 8 born about 1902
family in same county 1920 1930
US Bureau of Land Management (BLM) records of land transactions, three entries for Gudor Loken: http://files.usgwarchives.net/nd/williams/land/will-l2m1.txt
Find a Grave memorial for Martin Loken (19 April 1902 - 26 April 1958) buried Bethesda Cemetery, Appam, Williams, North Dakota
Juline's daughter Pauline married Gilbert Dullum (1889-1952), according to an obituary for their son Robert: Robert Glenwood Dullum was born April 5, 1927, to Gilbert and Pauline (Loken) Dullum on the family homestead in Athens Township, Williams County, where he would himself farm for years to come. Bob was baptized and confirmed in the Lutheran faith at Bethesda Lutheran Church, north of Williston. LINK: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Dullum&GSiman=1&GScnty=1803&GRid=91668915&
As with Juline's son Martin, Pauline Dullum (1882-1979) and husband Gilbert are also buried at Bethesda Cemetery, Appam, Williams, North Dakota (per Find a Grave)
Juline's daughter Christine (1900-1991) married Selmer Gafkjen (1893-2000) per an obituary for their son Orval L. Gafkjen: http://www.eversonfh.com/ObituaryDisplay.aspx?ID=311
As with Juline's children Martin and Pauline, Christine and her husband Selmer are buried at Bethesda Cemetery, Appam, Williams, North Dakota (Find a Grave). An obituary for Selmer is posted listing descendants.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2013 : 22:59:04
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There is a Jens Peterson living in Bayfield County. He and his family on found on the same page as the Locker family in this Census Record. However his birth and immigration dates are all over the place. 1900 birth Feb 1866 Immigration 1880 1910 birth 1858 (1857) Immigration 1872 (1880) 1920 birth 1857 Immigration 1872 (1880) 1880 is correct from the orginal Wisconsin 1905 birth abt 1858
1910 United States Federal Census Name: Jene Peterson [Jens Peterson] Age in 1910: 52 [53] Birth Year: abt 1858 [abt 1857] [1857] Birthplace: Norway Home in 1910: Washburn Ward 4, Bayfield, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1872 [1880] Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) [Head] Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Gertrude Peterson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Jene Peterson 52 [53] Gertrude Peterson 39 Maria Peterson 18 Adolph Peterson 12 [14] Perley Peterson 9 [12] Anna Peterson 9 Andrew Hugdahl 73
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/05/2013 : 05:36:17
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Find a Grave memorial for Jens in Washburn, Wisconsin calls him Jens C Petersen born 1857
There was a Tom Loken (wife Martha) born about 1865 in Norway, living in Preston, Blair township, Trempealeau, Wisconsin, immigrated 1882 (per 1900 census)
As posted before, Julina P. Hogseth married Gudor C. Laken 22 May 1887 in Washburn, Bayfield, Wisconsin Julina's father: Peder J. Hogseth Julina's mother: Martha Hogseth per Family Search
====================== BIRTH (Ancestry.com) George Loken Birth Date: 2 Feb 1895 Birth Place: Washburn, Bayfield, Wisconsin Father's Name: Gudos Loken Mother's Name: Julia Hogseth FHL Film Number: 1306423
1930 US Census Winner, WIlliams, North Dakota George Loken 35 Juline Loken 64, widow, born about 1866 Norway immigrated 1882 Martin Loken 27
DEATH (US Social Security Index) George Loken Last Residence: 58830 Alamo, Williams, North Dakota, United States of America Born: 2 Feb 1895 Died: Apr 1983 State (Year) SSN issued: North Dakota (Before 1951)
========================== Source: online family tree Ovidia M. LOKEN married 28 Jun 1911 in Williston, Williams, North Dakota Elmo Jesse Brown LINK: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=laplante&id=I78841
Per Ancestry.com family tree, Ovidia ("Martha") died 08 July 1989 (8 Jul 1989) - Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Parents: Gudor Loken, Juline Hogseth
from Family Search: 1920 US Census Williams County, North Dakota Alvin H Brown M 46y Minnesota Mary L Brown F 47y Canada Clayton Brown M 17y North Dakota Raymond Brown M 13y North Dakota Bulah Brown F 11 North Dakota Elma Brown M 36, brother, born in Minnesota - Brother Martha O Brown 30, sister-in-law, born about 1890 in Wisconsin Elnor Brown F 7 North Dakota Herald Brown 6 North Dakota Louise Brown 4 years 7 months North Dakota
from Family Search: Name: Ovidia Martha Brown Event Type: Death Event Date: 08 Jul 1989 Event Place: Multnomah, Oregon [Portland, Multnomah, Oregon per family tree online] Age: Birth Date: 15 May 1890 Spouse's Name: Elmo Brown Certificate Number: 89-13257 Social Security # issued in North Dakota
A Martin J Loken b 1903 Wisconsin, single, lives in Portland in 1940 ===================================== 1920 US Census Gilbert C Dullum 30 Minnesota Pauline Dullum 27 Wisconsin Glenwood L Dullum 4 North Dakota Janice C Dullum 2 years 5 months North Dakota Donel O Dullum 9 months North Dakota
Pauline's daughter Norma, from Family Search: Norma Dullum married Wilhelm A Sandberg 01 Jun 1946 Sidney, Richland, Montana Bride's father: Gilbert Dullum Bride's mother: Pauline Loken
Pauline's daughter Evelyn, from Family Search: Evelyn Dullum, age 20 married Forrest Woodward in Sidney, Richland, Montana 11 May 1941 Bride's father: Gilbert Dullum Bride's mother: Pauline Laken
Pauline's son Duane, from Family Search: Duane Dullum married Betty Ike 26 Jul 1947 in Sidney, Richland, Montana Groom's father: Gilbert C Dullum Groom's mother: Pauline Laken
World War I draft card - Gilbert Dullum born 30 Nov 1888 in Minnesota
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stevehogseth
Junior member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2013 : 21:31:53
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I continue to be amazed and very grateful to all the people who contribute to this site! Your information has been very helpful to me. When I get information from you, such as these last posts from Jane and Lynda, that further allows to me dig deeper at my local history center. Without your help, I doubt that I could have found a fraction that I have. A HUGE THANK YOU!! -- Steve Hogseth |
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stevehogseth
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 04/05/2013 : 22:09:33
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I understand Jens Pedersen Hogseth and Juline Pedersdatter Hogseth and Gudor Loken left Oslo Norway on April 20, 1882, and arrived in Hull England, the date not specified ... although I assume still in April. I assume they then left for USA in late April or early May of 1882. I have tried finding them deporting from Hull (I assume that is Liverpool) but have had no luck at all. Any ideas how to find that info? Thanks! --Steve |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2013 : 22:28:22
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This is likely the three arriving in New York. The other two passengers are named as E E Loken age 20 and Juliene Petterson age 17.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Jans Petterson Arrival Date: 18 May 1882 Birth Date: abt 1855 Age: 27 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish Place of Origin: Sweden Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: France
Right below them are Pen Olson age 23 and Caroline Olson age 23. Same people as in the emmigration list posted earlier. by Kåre.
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stevehogseth
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 05/05/2013 : 00:39:10
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Lynda, you are very helpful ... thank you. I just spent two hours browsing at the local history center. I browsed two ships, one had a passenger list of 141 pages, and it was very difficult to read. I just skipped over pages where the country of origin was NOT Norway, which means I skipped SWEDEN, since the three people are from Norway. Neither of the two ships was "France." Can you comment on how you know that "Jans Petterson" is actually Jens Pedersen? How "Juliene Petterson" is actually Juline Pedersen? And how "E.E. Loken" was Gudor Loken? How they ever got "E.E." as a translation from Gudor is something hard to fathom. I can understand the other two, because phonetically they are close. And then Sweden??? They were all from Norway. Are all three names listed next to each other? If so, that is very strong evidence that they are the three I am looking for. I am very curious as to how you deciphered all this? Very good detective work on your part!!! I am certain I would NEVER have found them on my own. I will be away for several days, so will not be able to get to the history center until May 10, but I will check this out when I return. Thank you once again! --Steve |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/05/2013 : 02:21:54
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Well if you look at the original manifest you can see that it is not Gudor but just initials. They are hard to read since they are smudged and the trascriber read them as E, E,and he read the last name as Loker but I think they are probably G C and the last neme is Løken. All three names are next to one another. They are on page 761 of a total of 1153 pages. What convinced me was the names are close and the ages are right. Also the prescence of the next two passengers Pen Olsen and Caroline Olsen both age 23 correspond well with the two passengers quite close to Jens and company in the Emigranter over Kristiania. Those two people were named Pehr Olsen and Karoline Olsen both age 23.The link was provided to you by Kåre and I repeat here.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=48057#nedre |
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stevehogseth
Junior member
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Posted - 01/06/2013 : 22:23:28
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During the past several weeks I have been talking with many "new" cousins here in the USA, --- in North Dakota, California, and Maine, filling in various puzzle pieces thru the postings I have made on this website. During this time, I keep exploring avenues, searching for "Jens." I have looked for both "Jens Hogseth" and "Jens Petersen" ... more precisely for "Jens P Petersen." Unfortunately there seems to be many hundreds of Jens Petersens, and to search them all seems all-but-insurmountable. While he may have used "Petersen", I'm still more inclined to believe he used "Hogseth." I have recently learned that Jens last had contact with his brother Martin, in 1890, in Chippewa Falls, WI. Last nite I found a death certificate (March 9, 1904) for "Erik O Hogseth" in Trempealeau Wisconsin. I found this connection rather interesting, in that Trempealeau was listed as the destination for Jens when he immigrated in 1882. I could find no other records on Erik, so his death age is unknown. Maybe he was a son of Jens and he was born in the USA? Or maybe he was unrelated? Maybe he was born in Norway, and came from a different Hogseth clan? Could somebody please help me determine the roots of Erik O Hogseth, and if he might be related to Jens Petersen Hogseth? Thank you! -- Steve |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 00:16:29
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The only farm named Hogseth in 1865 was in Elverum. In 1900 there were in addition to Elverum two Hogseth farms in Aurskog parish, Akershus county.
Of Høgseth farms there were more than 230 persons living in 1900 and 45 in 1865. If an Høgseth em. to America he would most liklely to avoid questions about how the name was spelled change to Hogseth that was more across in Norway as lastname in 1900 (66 persons). O. most likely stands for Ole and Erik if he was born after 1865 there were no Ole that could be his father on Høgseth farms in 1865 or Erik if he was born before 1865.
This is only an indication and no proof and Elverum is excluded.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 02:34:18
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This might be the family of Emma Olson found by Jackie. Father is Erick Olson.
1880 United States Federal Census Name: Errick Olson Age: 52 Birth Year: abt 1828 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1880: Preston, Trempealeau, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Ellen Olson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Neighbors: Occupation: Farmer: Household Members: Name Age Errick Olson 52 Ellen Olson 45 Olena Olson 15 John Olson 10 Emma Olson 7 |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/06/2013 02:35:00 |
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