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                       Posted - 16/05/2013 :  01:24:46
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Need help finding background on Ole Lier who immigrated to Massachusetts in 1900.  Family history has it that the family name was orginally Gulbranson and the name Lier came from the district.  Ole's father's name was Hartvig and his mother was Marie.  Please help me figure out the name change. | 
                     
                    
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                 AntonH 
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                       Posted - 16/05/2013 :  02:55:34
                        
                        
                      
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                       Birth date in this record is given as 12 Jan 1880. 
  U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name:	Ole Lier City:	East Brookfield County:	Worcester State:	Massachusetts Birth Date:	12 Jan 1880 Race:	White Draft Board:	11 | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 16/05/2013 :  03:43:55
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Originally posted by csage
   Please help me figure out the name change.
 
  
  The name and name change are consistent with Norwegian naming practice and the practices of Norwegian immigrants to USA. Gulbrandsen is a patronymic name and Lier is a place name. Both were likely used in Norway. A typical Norwegian immigrant would choose one of the two as a surname in America. A Google search will yield more reading you can do about this.
  A discussion of a Hartvig Gulbrandsen Lier, LINK: http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=562096
 
  1940 Auburn, Worcester, Massachusetts Ole Lier	60 born about 1880 Norway, diamond die worker Annie Lier	55 born about 1885 Norway Stanley Lier	25 | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 16/05/2013 :  04:50:38
                        
                        
                      
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                       Well done. So Ole Lier's parents are Hartvig Gulbrandsen Lier and Randine Larsdatter Mangbakken, (applying the names as found in the discussion on the link previously posted.) Garversvend is an occupation, means tanner. I think.
  The birth/baptism record jkmarler posted: Entry #45 Birth 12 January 1880 Baptism 4 April 1880 Name of child: Ole Parents: Garversvend (?) Hartvig Gulbrandsen Lier and Randine Larsdatr. Parents' birthplace: ? (hard to read - Bent_egal.?) Parents' birth year:  57, 57 ( = 1857) Baptismal sponsors: list of names (Mathea Gulbrandsdtr? and Mathea Larsen? and Hans Jacobsen? Anders Larsen? Johan Gulbrandsen? Christen Borgersen?
  From the researchers on the other link, Hartvig was born 26 December 1857 and died 29 December 1904; Randine died 1908. http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038015001222
 
  The 1885 Kristtiania census ( this is the city we call Oslo) Hartvig Lier born 1857 in Urskaug Randine Lier born 1856 in Urskaug Ole Lier, son, born 1880 Johan Lier, son, born 1882 Georg Lier, son, born 1884 | 
                     
                    
                       Edited by - JaneC on 16/05/2013  05:03:13 | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 16/05/2013 :  05:21:49
                        
                        
                      
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                       1910 Worcester, Massachusetts, USA Ole Leir  30 Annie C Leir  25  Lester L Leir  4 Norman H Leir  1 John Leir  28  <------fits with the 1885 census (Johan b 1882)
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                       Posted - 20/05/2013 :  16:19:36
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Parents' birthplace: ? (hard to read - Bent_egal.?)
   - it is the parents residence - Bentzegaten 1.
  Christen Borgersen was the sponsor at the next baptism. | 
                     
                    
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                       Edited by - eibache on 20/05/2013  16:23:13 | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 20/05/2013 :  17:39:34
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hartvig Gulbrandsen's father Gulbrand Olsen was first married to Gunnild Marie Christensdatter, see #36. Their first child was Anne Mattea, b. Sept 18 1844, then they had Karen Sophie, b. Febr 28 1847, then Ole b. March 26 1850 and  Kasper, b. Dec 29 1853.
 
 
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                       Edited by - eibache on 20/05/2013  17:40:26 | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 20/05/2013 :  17:47:08
                        
                        
                      
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                       Gulbrand Olsen was born March 11 1820, see #12. His parents were Ole Pedersen and Catharina Gulbrandsdatter, Halvorsrud.
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                       Posted - 29/05/2013 :  04:38:17
                        
                        
                      
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  I am overwhelmed by the responses and cannot thank you enough.  Many blessings to you all. | 
                     
                    
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