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jessgally
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 Posted - 16/05/2013 : 19:09:59
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| I am researching my GGrandfather. His name was Andrew Skari dob@ 1867 Norway. He immigrated in 1889 and settled in the Minnesota area. I have researched several parish records with no luck. There is only a handful of Skari's in the Us which makes it difficult to research. Am trying to figure out this linage into Norway and ties in the US. I know some realitives were located in ND. Any help is so appreciated!!! Thank You!! |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/05/2013 : 20:06:22
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Andrew was proably bapt. Anders or Andreas.
Skari farms in Norway.
He was perhaps from Skari in Tingelstad/Nes sub parish in Gran municipality, Oppland County or from Laurdal/Lårdal in present Tokke municipality in Telemark County.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 16/05/2013 23:28:36 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 16/05/2013 : 20:52:24
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I suspect the Norway researchers are going to ask you for more information from the USA. Add more details if you can.
Do you know his day/month/year of birth?
The original of Andrew's marriage certificate might name his parents. An online transcription at Minnesota Official Marriage System (MOMS) does not include all the information included on the original certificate.
Andrew also filed for citizenship, and his naturalization papers might point to his place of origin in Norway. naturalization papers are on microfilm at the Minnesota Historical Society. Some historical societies have a "look up" service (for a modest fee).
If we can find him in the 1900 census, that would give his month of birth at least.
He settled in Sundal township, Norman County, Minnesota.
The township name is also spelled Sundahl.
Supposedly the township was named after a place in Norway.
This might be Anders in 1895:
Minnesota State Census (from Ancestry.com)
Parke, Clay County, Minnesota
Anders Skarie , age 27, born about 1868 in Norway
Line: 12
Roll: V290_54
MARRIAGE
06 January 1904
Andrew Skari married Bertha Kjos
Polk county, Minnesota
Minnesota Marriage Certificate # K/308
(Bertha's first married name was Kjos; she married Hans O Kjos and they lived in Sundal, Norman, Minnesota in 1900. An Ole Kjos and Nils Kjos live nearby. I don't see Andrew Skari in 1900)
MARRIAGE
Berthe Erickson Ness
to
Hans O Kjos
13 April 1892
Polk County, Minnesota
from MOMS database found at www.mncounty.com
Birth records, marriage records, or obituaries for Andrew's children might list a middle name for him, or even a place of origin in Norway.
1905
Sundal, Norman, Minnesota
Anders Skari age 38 born in Norway
Berthe Skari age 36 born in Norway
1910
Gary, Norman, Minnesota
Andrew Skari 43 born about 1867 Norway, to USA 1889 <------------------------
Berthe Skari 42 b abt 1868 Norway, to USA 1888
Alma Skari 3 b Minnesota
Edwin Skari 2
Alrick Skari 0 [6/12] .....[baby Alrick died shortly after this census, per death cert found on Family Search website]
Julia Nelson 22 servant
1920
Sundal, Norman, Minnesota
Anders Skari 53 born about 1867 Norway, to USA 1886 <--------------------------
Berthe Skari 51
Alma Skari 13
Edwin Skari 11
Hans Mikalson 56 hired man
1930
Sundal, Norman, Minnesota
Andrew Skari 63 widowed
Edwin Skari 22 son
Inga Skari 19 daughter-in-law
Raymond Skari 0 [7/12] grandson
Andrew's death certificate should state his parents' names. A copy can be ordered from the Minnesota Historical Society.
DEATH
Name: Andrew Skare
Date: 21 May 1933
Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota
Record Number: 644593
Certificate Number: 010701
Certificate Year: 1933
Find a Grave Memorial information:
Name: Andrew Skari
Birth Date: 1867
Age at Death: 66
Death Date: 21 May 1933
Place of Death: Fergus Falls, Otter Tail County, Minnesota
Burial Place: Sundal Cemetery, Gary, Norman County, Minnesota, USA
Find a Grave website Memorial
Bertha Ness Skari (the memorial notes her first husband as well)
Birth: Jun. 26, 1868, Gran Herad, Oppland County, Norway
Death: Jan. 12, 1921, Norman County, Minnesota, USA
Find a Grave memorials in North Dakota (Edwin Skari, wife Inga, and others):
www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=102162&GSfn=&GSln=Skari" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=102162&GSfn=&GSln=Skari
Petition for naturalization (more info):
Name: Andru (Andrew) (Mrs.Bertha) Skari
County: Norman
Reel: 4
Code: 15
Volume: 2
Page: 151
Document Type: Petition
Years: 1911 -1929
Numbers: 1-223
This could be the birth of a child of Alma, Andrew's daughter:
Name: Wayne Aldred Austad
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 21 Apr 1939
Event Place: Norman county, Minnesota
Father's Name: Anton Austad
Mother's Name: Alma Skare
File Number: 1939-MN-016579
Use the free Family Search website to find more births for Anton Austad and Alma Skare.
Per an online family tree Berthe's maiden name is Bertha Eriksdatter Ness and her father is Erik Olsen Ness and mother Elsen Aslesdatter.
The Sundahl Lutheran church might have a volunteer willing to look up records for this family that might show more about Andrew/Anders. |
Edited by - JaneC on 16/05/2013 20:53:53 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/05/2013 : 21:00:00
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I believe Gran in Oppland is the right parish.
He married Bertha /Birthe Næss born June 26. 1868 in Gran parish #162
Parents; "Hmd" (Husmand) Cottager Erik Olsen Røken-eiet and Else Aslesdatter.
It correspond with this info.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 16/05/2013 21:06:00 |
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jessgally
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Posted - 16/05/2013 : 22:53:34
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| Thank you. Jane you are exactly on track- that is him. Alma was my GGrandmother. I cannot find him on the 1900 census anywhere or have had no luck coming up with a birthdate for him. I am probably going to have to order records. I have most of the info you have given me. I just cannot figure out Siblings or parents. I appreciate your help. Kare- thank you so much for the parish record for Bertha! |
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/05/2013 : 23:21:19
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In 1895 he was already in Minnesota, so he is also likely to be found in Minnesota in 1900.
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Anders Skarie
Age: 27
Census Date: 1895
County: Clay
Locality: Parke
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Race: White
Line: 12
Roll: V290_54
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 00:08:21
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Reg Bertha Næs.
Five of Berthas godparents were from NæseEie
The ending Eie means Own, NæsEie was a subfarm under Næs.
Still looking for Andrews birth record.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 17/05/2013 00:54:39 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 00:40:07
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Berthas parents Erik Olsen and Else Aslesdatter were from "Aadalen" Ådal
They must have settled down in Gran (Tingelstad and Næss sub parish) ca 1860 because only two of the children were born there, Ole 3 and Inger 5.
So Bertha had at least five siblings.
They lived on farm Kleven, but had no land to cultivate in 1865
Civil status and occ. for Erik Olsen; lodger and laborer
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Edited by - Kåarto on 17/05/2013 09:51:42 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 00:52:29
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Perhaps I might have overlooked them, but I can´t find this family in Gran in1875.
Perhaps they emigratet to America or moved to another parish?
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JaneC
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 00:56:45
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Andrew Skare and Bertha Ness married 1904 in Minnesota. Both had been in the USA many years. Andrew doesn't have to be born same place as Bertha.
jessgally, this person created a memorial on Find a Grave for
Else Aslesdatter and Erick Olsen Ness,
who both died in Minnesota.
In 1895 they resided in Polk County, Minnesota.
She asks for help with information about them. Maybe you could write to her?
LINK:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=90168369
About the 1900 census:
Sundal has only about 145 people in 2000.
I found Berthe in 1900 and then read every page of that section of the township - 11 pages. No Andrew Skare on those pages.
Andrew/Anders Skari/Skare/Skaare lived in Parke, Clay County, Minnesota in 1895 and in Sundal, Norman, Minnesota in 1905. These places are near each other.
Andrew married in 1904 in Polk county. Norman and Polk counties are adjacent. Part of Norman county was in Polk county at one time.
I wonder if you do a careful study of the geography, and pinpoint specific locations to search, if you can find Andrew in 1900, even if you have to read the original pages of the census. The area is sparsely populated.
Less difficult would be to order his marriage and death certs and naturalization papers, as you say.
It may be difficult to recognize Andrew in Norway without a date of birth or parents' names (not even a patronymic name).
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Edited by - JaneC on 17/05/2013 01:03:57 |
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jessgally
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 05:28:43
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| Jane I did order the records today. You now see why I am stuck. I appreciate everything you have done. Kare thank you so much your info is great |
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JaneC
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 06:11:53
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| Great. Keep the forum posted. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 16:20:33
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15 possible candidates.
Anders born/Bapt. in Gran 1867, no one born on Skari:
1) Anders Hansen b. Nov. 23. 1866. parents: Cottager Hans Iversen RetrumsEiet and Jøran Andersdatter
2) Anders Iversen b. Nov. 26. 1866. Parents; Cottager Iver Hansen NæsbakEiet and Kari Iversdatter
3) Anders Andersen b. Nov. 27. 1866. Parents; Anders Andersen SkariEiet and Mari Iversdatter
4) Anders Iversen Nov. 22. 1866. Parents; Farmer Iver Iversen Lindstad and Kari Hansdatter
5) Anders Nielsen b. Dec. 26. 1866. Parents; Cottager Niels Pedersen HvalbyEiet and Elina Andersdatter
6) Anders Andersen b. Feb. 13. 1867. Parents: Cottager Anders Nielsen SvinningEiet and Ragnild Larsdatter
7) Anders Andersen b. Marc 4. 1867. Parents; Cottager Anders Larsen HvalbyEiet and Karen Andersdatter
8) Anders Larsen b. April 26. 1867. Parents; Cottager Lars Pedersen HalvorsbølEiet and Anne Petersdatter
9) Anders Jacobsen b. Mai 22. 1867. Parents; Cottager Jacob Andersen ToverudEiet and Karen Olsdatter
10) Anders Larsen b. Nov. 26. 1867. Parents; Cottager Lars Henningsen BjellaEiet and Kirsti Paulsdatter
11) Anders Christensen b. August 13. 1867. Parents; Farmer Christen Monsen Bjone and Kirsti Simonsdatter
12) Anders Bentsen b. Sept. 10. 1867. Parents; Farmer Bent Bentsen Baalerud and Anne Pedersdatter
13) Anders Ingebretsen b. Oct. 19. 1867. Parents; Farmer Ingebret Pedersen Morstad and Birthe Iversdatter
14) Anders Andersen b. Nov. 2. 1867. Parents Cottager Anders Eriksen SandbakEiet and Kirsti Pedersdatter
15) Anders Adamsen b. Dec. 10. 1867. Parents; Cottager Adam Svendsen SkaarudEiet and Anne Hansdatter
16) Anders Iversen b. March 30. 1868. Parents; Farmer Iver Thorstensen Sandbakken and Marthe Andersdatter
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 16:30:26
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A question;
Did one of the parents have a connection to farm Skari or did one of the Anders later grew up on a Skari farm?
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jkmarler
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 17:17:15
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Em. From farm Skar in Tingvoll parish, Møre & Romsdal county.
There were ca 450 persons on Skar farms in 10 Counties in Norway 1865.
I still keep on Skari in Gran parish.
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