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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 17:24:31
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This might be the same person that Jackie turned up.
Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945 Name: Anders Skar Arrival Date: 28 May 1883 Age: 15 Years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Lord Gough Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Last Residence: Sowe Birthplace: Norway Microfilm Roll Number: T840_2 |
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hasto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 19:46:11
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There is an Anders born on Skari-eiet in Gran Nov 27th 1866 Nr 312 These church record are also digitized: Gran church records I have not found him as emigrant.
Skari and Kjos are neighbouring farms: map
Andreas Martinsen Kjos was emigrant 1888 |
Harald S Storaker 4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 20:28:13
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quote: Originally posted by Kåarto
16 possible candidates. Anders born/Bapt. in Gran 1867, no one born on Skari:
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Recidence 1875 for the 15 families mentioned above. Nr 1 lived on farm Bakken. Nr 2 lived on Iversbråten Nr 3 Lived on Bråtestua nr 4 still on Lindstad Nr 5 lived on Braaten (Bråten) Nr 6 lived on Skapalen, Anders b. 1867 probably died youn, a 2. son Anders born 1871 Nr 7 lived on Elnæsstuen, no son Anders , probably dead. Nr 8 not found Nr 9 not found Nr 10 still on Bjone Nr 11 still on Baalerud (Bålerud) Nr 12 not found Nr 13 lived on Brændhaugen Nr 14 lived onn Elvetangen Nr 15 not found
A new Anders Iversen appears on farm Berger in Gran 1875, b. 1867 in Næss in Gran. Parents; Iver Gulbrandsen born 1841 in Næss and Berthe Olsdatter born 1831 in Gran parish.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 20:50:11
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The most possible candidate is Anders Andersen born Nov. 27. 1866 on SkariEiet, a sub farm under Skari. Parents; Anders Andersen and Mari Iversdatter.
This family lived on Bråtestua 1875 with 4 children; Anne 1862, Anders 1866, Johanne 1870 and Iver 1875.
The family lived on farm Gundersby 1865.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/05/2013 00:11:32 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/05/2013 : 21:02:10
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I see you have the same candidate born 1866 Harald. I believe he is a good candidate for Anders Skari b. ca 1867.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 17/05/2013 23:25:24 |
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jessgally
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 22:18:34
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I recieved records back on Andrew Skari. No parents names were mentioned, His last name was spelled Skare. His Dob was 03 Nov. 1866 in Hadeland, Norway. That was also his address before coming to the US. He immigrated to the US from Christiania, Norway on ship Tingvalla on the 18 of July 1886 into New York. Unfortuntly I did not get any more info than that but at least now I have a dob. I tried finding his Parish record with no luck. Any help is appreciated. Thank you! |
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AntonH
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jessgally
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 23:40:23
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I am going off his Naturalization papers that I ordered from Minnesota. Now I am not familiar with Norway. Would that be located in Hadeland? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 23:44:04
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Yes, it is the same person as Number 3 on the list posted on page one by Kåre. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 00:24:33
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Usually the date requested on naturalization records is the date of arrival in US and where. 18 July 1886 means departure about two weeks before from (usually) the ports in Great Britain and then any where from 2-6 days before that as departure from the Norwegian port in this case Oslo (Kristiania) so probably the last 2 weeks in June 1886 or 1st week of July 1886. There were over 350 of those whose first name begins And_____ who left through Kristiania in 1886.
The four parishes making up Hadeland are Gran, Jevnaker, Lunner, Brandbu. I see only one And____ of approximately the correct age leaving from one of the parishes, Gran is this one:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=120&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=82828&merk=82828#ovre
Here is the family of Anders Adamson in 1865: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=143&filnamn=f60534&gardpostnr=100&personpostnr=621&merk=621#ovre
I think this Anders could be eliminated as he lived in Pope county, Minnesota and died there about 1913.
The digitalarkivet also has indexed the Gran & Jevnaker out migrating records. There are only two whose first name starts with And leaving from a farm that contains "skar":
Given name Father's name Farm Age Position Year Date No. Destination Local parish 2084 Anders Amunds Skarieiet 1844 8/5 Hmds 1866 25. apr. 163 Amerika Gran 4588 Anders Torstens Skarieiet 1860 Ungk 1882 27. april 33 Amerika Gran
Ages on each of these are outside the +/- 5 years rule of thumb.
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 02:44:46
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Based on the data on Ancestry.com, there were no arrivals in New York on July 18, 1886. In July, 1886 there was only one Anders Anderson, born about 1866. This one.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Anders Anderson Arrival Date: 27 Jul 1886 Birth Date: abt 1866 Age: 20 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish Place of Origin: Sweden Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Devonia
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 04:59:44
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Because of the relationship between Norway and Sweden, a person might be recorded as Swedish even if they were Norwegian.
Here are all the men whose names contained "and" leaving in 1886 who listed their residence as "Gran" leaving through Kristiania on the 2nd Kristiania list:
Year Page Line no. New family gr. Contract date Date of departure Given name Last name Marital status Family pos. Occupation Sex Age Domicile Destination Line Ship Freight (kr) Freight (øre) Payment info. Permission Remarks Travel status 78545 1886 122 35 1 14.04.1886 15.04.1886 Anders Torgers. Arb m 23 Gran La Crosse Fr. Lie Thingvalla 134 00 Till. sess. %R% 78633 1886 125 18 15.04.1886 16.04.1886 Anders Anders. B m 3 Gran Waupeca Krantz Marstin Ppd 79291 1886 144 9 28.04.1886 29.04.1886 Anders Hans. B m 5,5 Gran Albert Lea Fr. Lie Island Ppd 79304 1886 144 22 1 28.04.1886 30.04.1886 Gulbrand Kristens. Arb m 24 Gran Sioux City Iowa Blichfeldt Marstin 145 00 Till sess 79309 1886 144 27 1 28.04.1886 30.04.1886 Gulbrand Torstens. Arb m 21 Gran Sioux City Iowa Blichfeldt Marstin 145 00 R 79310 1886 144 28 1 28.04.1886 30.04.1886 Anders Mortens. Arb m 22 Gran Sioux City Iowa Blichfeldt Marstin 145 00 R Paategnet 79969 1886 163 18 1 06.05.1886 07.05.1886 Gulbrand Thorstens. g Arb m 40 Gran Preston A. Sharpe Angelo Ppd 80123 1886 167 32 1 07.05.1886 07.05.1886 Gulbrand Tostens. g Arb m 40 Gran Preston DT A. Sharpe Angelo Ppd Indført side 163 %se næste side% o 82828 1886 245 1 1 24.06.1886 25.06.1886 Anders Adams. Arb m 18 Gran Northwood Krantz Rollo Ppd R 83479 1886 263 18 1 08.07.1886 08.07.1886 Anders Eriks. Arb m 22 Gran Hadel. Monroe Fr. Lie Hekla Ppd
Okay #4 on the right hand page in 1887, Anders Anderson worker on Eggeneie b 1866 bapt 1867: Source information: Oppland county, Brandbu in Gran, Parish register (official) nr. 15 (1880-1888), Emigration records 1885-1887, page 146. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6122&idx_id=6122&uid=ny&idx_side=-132
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jkmarler
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Kåarto
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 11:11:55
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Hadeland is mentioned, its a district consisting of 3 municipalities link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 03/06/2013 12:30:46 |
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