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Ted Rolles
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Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  16:59:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need help finding information on Ellef Olsen (Rolles). Born approx 1862 , with siblings : Matt, Simon, Sam, Mathilda, Ole, John, Bredine, Hanna, Tillie, Soren, Olaves (olaus)

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  17:22:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little more information might help. Where did he live, U.S., Canada etc. There is this record on Ancestry.com. Is this him? Do you want information on his life in Norway.

Washington, Deaths, 1883-1960
Name: Ellef Olson
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: abt 1863
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 7 May 1906
Age at Death: 43
Death Location: Seattle, Washington
Residence: Seattle, Washington
Father: Ola Gunolson
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother: I Ellefson
Mother's Birth Place: Norway

Edited by - AntonH on 04/06/2013 17:24:18
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  17:28:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a family in the 1865 Norwegian Census that matches farily well the Washington State Death Notice posted above. Click on the highlighted link.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0812&kenr=005&bnr=0033&lnr=000

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Ted Rolles
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Canada
75 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  17:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No that is not him he died in Saskatchewan Canada after imigrating to Minnesota USA and homesteading in Canada. I have zero information on him or his family Roots in Norway. I am on ancestry.com and have located all information available on there (I believe) I would like to find information on his birthplace, parents, siblings etc.
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  17:35:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Post some of the Ancestry info you have on him and that might give us a place to start.
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Ted Rolles
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Canada
75 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  17:45:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ellef M. Rolles.
Birth: oct 1862, Norway
Death: april 1930 Saskatchewan, Canada
Father: Martin Olsen
Mother: Carin Olsen

1880 United States federal census has him under Elot Olson
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:02:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Ted, The 1880 Census provides a lot of data on the family. I notice that someone has added the name Olaf in place of Alop and I woud suspect that Barin is actually the Carin shown in your post. All of the children above Hanna were born in Norwayl.

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin Olson
Age: 53
Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Acton, Meeker, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Barin Olson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Olson 53
Barin Olson 53
Alop Olson 23
John Olson 20
Bredina Olson 18
Elot Olson 15
Hanna Olson 12
Tilda Olson 9
Soren Olson 7

Edited by - AntonH on 04/06/2013 18:04:42
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:02:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or
Ellef Martinsen b. Oct. 14. 1864.
Parents" Martin Olsen Rolles ans Karen Wilhelmsen.
Married Clara O. Hansen.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 04/06/2013 18:03:08
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Ted Rolles
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Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kaarto. How/where did you come across Ellef martinsen ans Karen wilhelmsen information?
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:26:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The entry for Ellef's family in the 1900 US census gives more information still. He must have immigrated to the US as a child or young boy -- perhaps even before the 1865 Norwegian census.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M93G-46N
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ted Rolles

Kaarto. How/where did you come across Ellef martinsen ans Karen wilhelmsen information?



I found it here, but some dates do not correspond.

In 1865 there were Rolles farms in Sande

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 04/06/2013 18:46:58
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:47:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Ellef Rolles and Clara Hanson's marriage:
NORMAN 003-075
3/7/1892
ROLLES, ELLEF M
HANSON, CLARA T

At mncounty.com
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Ted Rolles
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Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:55:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have tried these other sites as well but have a tough time navigating and understanding the information. Guess it would help if I understood Norwegian and fully understood how Norwegian names were put together.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0812&kenr=005&bnr=0033&lnr=000
http://www.arkivverket.no/eng/content/view/full/629
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:58:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The mother's Norwegian name was a really good clue --
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NHCW-KZK





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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  19:06:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are lists of words online and quite a few helpful articles to study which will help you --\

The real joy of this hobby is being able to do it yourself. You can! There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!

Ancestors From Norway articles (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html)
Portal to Norway research guidance of LDS Family History Library (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Norway)
Tips on Using Digitalarkivet (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
Norwegian census abbreviations (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/census_abbreviations.html)
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website, instructions included (http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
FamilySearch has a large number of Norwegian births and marriages indexed (http://www.familysearch.org)

Help for translating many of your finds (http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm)
Making the Norwegian alphabet characters (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/Characters.html)

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)

Norwegian censuses of 1910, 1900,1875 (only partially online), 1865 and 1801 are online as searchable databases. Two websites with different search functions and strengths can be used.
(http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
(http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)

For the protection of privacy, there are limits for how recent records can be:

- Birth and baptism records up to and including 1929
- Confirmation records up to and including 1934
- Marriage and banns records - no limits
- Civil marriage up to and including 1950
- Death, burial and stillbirth records up to and including 1930
- Migration records - no limits
- Joins and leavings of the State Church up to and including 1950
- Records about dissenters up to and including 1950

If you cross these limits while browsing a register or a list, you will not see the digitised image, but a message informing you that the image cannot be displayed.

Norway has a tradition of publishing history and genealogy books for many rural districts of the country called 'bygdebøker'. You might be lucky enough to have had ancestors from one of the areas which has one or more good 'bygdebøker' published about it.
Learn about 'bygdebøker' (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html)
Bygdebøker and Ættarbøker can be helpful but are definitely secondary sources of information -- any research done in them should be verified in the primary sources such as the parish church records.


Links and more links about Norway and Norwegian genealogy (http://www.cyndislist.com/norway.htm)

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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  19:09:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess he was born in Botne on Oct 14. 1864.
Ellef Otto bap. Nov. 6.
Parents; Martin Olsen Kiste-eie (a sub farm under Kiste) and Karen Olea Wilhelmsdatter, see#47

Botne

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Edited by - Kåarto on 04/06/2013 19:21:18
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