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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 14/06/2013 : 18:48:26
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Karen is found in the burial records of the Prairie Home Cemetery (you know, the one which gave it's name to Garrison Keillor's radio show The Prairie Home Companion), in Moorhead, Clay county, Minnesota.
The records give her birthdate as 24 June 1779 b. Norway and her parents as Tollef Lindaat (or maybe Lindsat?) and Helle. Either Karen or her mother were born on Kolstad. Karen died 8 July 1888 of old age and was buried 9 July in Lot 87 at the cemetery. Her burial is not marked.
I noodled around a little bit looking for her and these links are about her in some US records. In both the 1880 and 1885 census listings she is found living with her daughter Elise/ Eliza and son-in-law Carl Goebel, first in Goodhue county, Minnesota then in Moorhead, Clay county, Minnesota and her daughter in the 1900 census:
Karen Bikjen in 1885 census of Moorhead, Clay County, Minnesota
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQXC-8MS
Karen Bikjen in 1880 census of Goodhue county, Minnesota m-in-law of Carl Goebel (Elise Goebel)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZ94-GZ8
daughter Eliza Goebel res of Moorhead, Clay County, Minnesota in 1900, b. Mar 1833, mother of 7 / 2 living, occ physician, migration date indexed as 1859.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M9SS-2YG
A person of such an advanced age in 1888 has to be rare so I'm curious where she came from in Norway. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 19:24:32
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Its a small place that consist of a few turns in the road in northern Kongsberg called Bikjend.
I also noticed the name Katrine Beaver 26, Bever (Beaver) is a farm north in Kongsberg.
Limboe can be Lindboe, also a Kongsberg name.
Tollef Lindaat or Lindsat;
There are Lindaas and Lindset farms in the southern part of Kongsberg.
Off the record; An em. from one of the "Bikjend" farms became Governor in USA.
Time for dinner and the news.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/06/2013 19:29:27 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 20:15:11
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2013 : 20:36:56
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Here is an oddity. This family is on Ancestry.com. It bears some resembleance to the one you have mentioned. However the daughter Karen is listed as having died in Norway. A mystery to me?
Tollef* Halvorsen Lindås
Birth 1758 in Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Death 1819 in Steinset, Sandsvær,Buskerud, Norway
Helle* Marie Olsdatter Aas
Birth 1766 in Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Death abt 1800 in Landsverk, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
And daughter
Karen* Kristine Tollefsdatter Landsverk
Birth 10 Jul 1796 in Landsverk, Buskerud, Norway
Death 1880 in Norway
Married to
Anders* Svendsen Andersen Bikjend
Birth 28 Jun 1777 in Bikjend, Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Death abt 1860 in Kongsberg, Buskerud Fylke, Norway
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 20:41:21
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Note - more replies came in while I was writing this....
So Karen was about age 59 when she gave birth to Eliza? ... and about age 109 when she died? Maybe she is a grandmother to Eliza, or an adoptive mother, or she was born later than 1779.
17 June 1880
US Census
Red Wing, Goodhue, Minnesota, USA
Carl Goebel, 30, lawyer, b Prussia
Eliza Goebel, physician, 42, wife, physician, b Norway ----- born about 1838
Karen Bikjen, 100 years and 11 months, mother-in-law, b Norway ----- born about 1779
+ one servant and two boarders
So Karen was probably born in July.
From Find a Grave:
Dr. Eliza K Lindboe Goebel 1833-1912 buried Lac Qui Parle, Lac Qui Parle, Minnesota
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=GOE&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSsr=41&GRid=98525879&
Dr. O. K. Lindboe 1851-1942 buried Dawson, Lac Qui Parle County, Minnesota, with wife Anna
Newspaper article 08 December 1886 St. Paul [Minnesota] Daily Globe:
"There is little hope of survival many days of Mrs. Goebel, the female doctor and midwife, shot at Moorhead early Sunday morning."
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn90059522/1886-12-08/ed-1/seq-5/#date1=1836&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=Lindboe&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=Minnesota&date2=1922&proxtext=Lindboe&y=13&x=14&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 20:46:50
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is an oddity. This family is on Ancestry.com. It bears some resembleance to the one you have mentioned. However the daughter Karen is listed as having died in Norway. A mystery to me?
Tollef* Halvorsen Lindås
Birth 1758 in Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Death 1819 in Steinset, Sandsvær,Buskerud, Norway
Helle* Marie Olsdatter Aas
Birth 1766 in Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Death abt 1800 in Landsverk, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
And daughter
Karen* Kristine Tollefsdatter Landsverk
Birth 10 Jul 1796 in Landsverk, Buskerud, Norway
Death 1880 in Norway
Married to
Anders* Svendsen Andersen Bikjend
Birth 28 Jun 1777 in Bikjend, Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Death abt 1860 in Kongsberg, Buskerud Fylke, Norway
Interesting re Kåre's mention.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 20:49:53
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Originally posted by JaneC
So Karen was about age 59 when she gave birth to Eliza? ... and about age 109 when she died? Maybe she is a grandmother to Eliza, or an adoptive mother, or she was born later than 1779.
Yes does stretch credulity although actually age 54 rather than 59--5 years which might make somewhat of a difference. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 21:02:46
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The family that 'lyndal40' found on Ancestry also appears in the free databases of FamilyTree on FamilySearch.org.
Someone listing themselves as 'CTuttle' has been editing and adding to the family information as recently as May of this year.
Karen Kirstine Tollefsdatter Landsverk (b. 1796) is shown as married to Anders Andersen Bikjend in 1820, Sandsvaer, Buskerud. But they have only entered information for one child of Anders by his first wife. Karen was the second wife. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 14/06/2013 21:09:16 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 21:34:12
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A post by a descendant of Karen and Anders Andersen Bikjend:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.buskerud/286.1/mb.ashx
and another:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.unknown/63.215.576.581.1/mb.ashx
"Andreas' second wife was Karen Kristine Tollefsdt Landsverk, b. 10 Jul 1796 in Landsverk-eir, Sandsvaer, Buskerud, Norway and DIED ABOUT 1880 IN NORWAY. Her father was Tollef Halvorsen Landsverk, b. ca 1755, and her mother was Helle Marie Olsdt Aas, b. ca 1768, d. after 1800."
Then another person replies:
"Thank you for your reply. I would add that Karen Tollefsdtr Bikjend died in the US in Moorhead Mn on July 8,1888 and is buried at the Prairie Home Cemetery in Moorhead. Her daughter Eliza went over to Norway ~1878 and brought her back and they lived in Redwing MN in 1880 and moved in that year to Moorhead where Eliza lived until 1911. Karen shows up in the 1880 US census. "
The discussion seems unsure of many facts but certainly it's the same family being discussed.
ELIZA married 1) Mr. Lindboe 2) Mr. Paulsen 3) Carl Goebel
according to the St. Paul [Minnesota] Globe newspaper article posted |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/06/2013 21:57:41 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 23:35:18
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Anders Andersen Bikjend and Karen had a son "Isach" 1 Dec 1828 in Kongsberg.
I know that their daughter mentioned earlier in this thread appears here in the Kongsberg records with a listed birthdate of 31 Mar 1833 -- but for the life of me I cannot read that handwriting to offer how the name was spelled in that record.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1097&idx_id=1097&uid=ny&idx_side=-197
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 23:36:38
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Anders Svendsen Bikjend b. ca 1776 was a widowen when he married Karen Tollefsdatter Lindås 1820 in Hedenstad church, Sandsvær.
They moved to Kongsberg where the children were born.
Kongsberg 1840;
Anders and Karen with 4 children, Johan occ. silverminer, Tollev same occ. and Isac and Ole link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/06/2013 23:38:32 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 23:43:02
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Karen and Anders had a total of eight children according to the Family Tree on Ancestry.com. And Karen was onliy 37 when had Else.
Else Cathrine Bikjend
Birth 31 Mar 1833 in Bikjend, Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Death 1920
Probably her birth record, See #24 right hand page. Found in a different book than where Hopkins looked. You are right Hopkins that particluar book is impossible to follow.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8575&idx_id=8575&uid=ny&idx_side=-191 |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/06/2013 01:20:38 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/06/2013 : 23:44:56
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Is it only me?
I have problems to read because some links are widescreen and take more space than the screen so I have to jump back and forth 
The em. from this family took place between 1840 and 1865, or more likely between 1840-60 because of the civil war in USA since they are not in the 1865 census for Kongsberg.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 15/06/2013 00:37:21 |
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