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arnebraat
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 Posted - 09/08/2013 : 13:54:42
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Thank you all for helping out! Now I've got so much new and valuable information about Caroline and George Gilbetson and the rest of the family. I have also got new information about the familyfriend Carl Berg and the link to Kongsvinger and Olaf Stømner. All this will make my story about the siblings Peter and Caroline more credible. The information about George Gilbertsons roots in Norway gave me the key to start searching in DIS Norway, and now I've got the family records back to ca 1630.
During my work with Caroline, this "cousin R. Amundsen" has kept me wondering about her family because she also is my relative. I know quite a lot about her roots in Norway, but nothing about Amund. I think I'll start a new topic about him in this forum, just to reach more people who might know something.
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arnebraat
Junior member
Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 20:03:28
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Now I have looked through all the information you guys have provided. About Amund Amundson: In the memorial from Find a Grave, I could see his exact day of birth, 29 may 1856. I have used Familysearch and located him to Sør-Odal, the same parish as his wife Randi. He is born "outside" (uægte) marriage. The father is Amund Amundsen Holt from Vinger and Rangdi Gulliksdatter Hærnes. Hærnes is a rural area with some smaller farms south of the river Glomma between Galterud and Sander. And it is in the same neighbourhood Lena Gilbertson's father lived before he moved to Sjøenden. Now I will try to find more of his ancestors. I am also interested in all information from the US. I don't think there is a need to create a new topic about Amund. I already have a good starting point.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 20:08:52
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Would you know when Olaf Stømner was born? Maybe interesting to find any relation to Carl Berg?
I find two possibilities in Vinger, Hedmark; Olaf Martinsen Stømner and Olaf Olsen Stømner.
Olaf Martinsen Stømner
Born 03 Mar 1888
Parents: Martin Gulliksen & Marthea Olsdatter
Census-1900
Emigrating to America 1910
Olaf Olsen Stømner
Born 24 Jun 1889
Parents: Ole Isaksen & Karen Nilsdatter
Census-1900
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arnebraat
Junior member
Norway
30 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2013 : 20:20:23
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No, I just remember the name. But he lived at Stømner when I was a child. Stømner is located south of Glomma just a couple of kilometers before Kongsvinger, and I think it is two small farms. I don't think the right one ever went to America. Then it has to be the one born in 1889.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 20:59:21
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One Olaf A. Stømner lived here in 1950.
Maybe it could be this one. The family is from Kongsvinger, but they are living at Stømner in Tune, Østfold, so it seems very unlikely.
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arnebraat
Junior member
Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 21:12:16
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Interesting. I don't know about the "A", but the place is familiar. The railway is dividing the property, but I think it is a part of Stømner. Maybe Olaf A is not from Stømner, but has married a woman from Stømner and picked the name from the place. That was usual at that time. I think the house is from about 1915. Maybe he is a relative of my grandfather. I really don't know.
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JaneC
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arnebraat
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Norway
30 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2013 : 21:31:19
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Thank you, Jane. I have already left a public message for this person at his profile. The profile is very limited and offer no direct e-mail adress. It's about a year anybody was active here, but I hope the person will be notified automatically. He seems to have created a book about his family, and that could be very interesting to hear about.
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arnebraat
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Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 21:43:19
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Jane, I forgot: My motivation for this searching came when I found three photos in my mother's house after she died this may. I have no names on the photos, but I think one photo very well could be of Amund and Randi with the three older children. It was taken by a photographer named J. Erickson, 315 Cedar Avenue, Minneapolis. Fortunately he had this very nice business information under the picture on the front. I found a list of who were operating as photographers by that time in Minneapolis, and Julius Erickson had his business on this adress in 1891-92. This match with the children's age I believe.
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arnebraat
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Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 22:07:19
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I'm sorry, Jan Peter, but since I'm not very experienced in this field, I have not done all my homework well. As I may had this unconscious, I have searched my own writings and other information. Olaf A Stømner is my grandfather's nephew. He is the oldest of nine children of Andreas Amundsen Sakrisrud, Amund Hansen Sjøenden's youngest son from the first marriage with Berte Johannesdatter Hærnes.
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JaneC
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 18:47:29
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Hi Arne, I'm not sure what next - do you want records of Amund's children in the USA? My impression is that you have the resources to find what you need. I'll post a little anyway.
1885
Donnelly, Stevens, Minnesota
A. Amundson 27
Randy Amundson 25
Amoy (?) age 1 female (hard to read)
1910
Logan, Grant, Minnesota
Amund Amundson 53 born Norway, to USA 1881
Rande Amundson 52 born Norway to USA 1881
Ludvig Amundson 23
Emil Amundson 18
Ole Amundson 14
Annie Amundson 12
Roy Amundson 5
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World War I Draft Registration September 1918
Name: Anton Olavis Amundson <----------------[Not Antonne Aleves Amundson. ]
Herman, Grant, Minnesota
Birth: 14 August 1885
Native born US citizen
Occupation: Head miller, flour mill, Phoenix (?) Mill Company
Nearest relative: Jennie Amundson, wife
Medium height, stout build, blue eyes, brown hair
["Antonne Aleves Amundson" is a misprint from the death record.]
1910 US Census
Logan, Grant, Minnesota
AC Amundson 24 born 1886 Minnesota
Jennie Amundson 23 born 1887 Norway
1920
Herman, Grant, Minnesota
Jennie Amundson 33, widow, born in Norway, to USA 1901
Hazel Amundson, born about 1912 Minnesota
Minnesota Cemetery Inscription index, Ancestry.com
Name: Hazel L. Johnson
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1911
Death Date: 22 Feb 1999
Comments: Spouse DWIGHT. born AMUNDSON. MAR. 09/MAR/1927. LAKEWOOD MAUSOLEUM MPLS., MN. ROC. 23/FEB/1999
Minnesota Death Index, Minnesota Historical Society (mnhs.org)
Name: Hazel Leona Johnson
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1911
Birth City: Herman
Birth State or Country: Minnesota
Death Date: 22 Feb 1999
Death: Rochester, Olmsted, Minnesota
Mother's Maiden Name: Jacobson
State File Number: 1999-MN-004495
This could possibly be Hazel in 1930 US Census:
1930
Ten Mile Lake, Lac Qui Parle
Dwight Johnson 30
Hazel Johnson 18 wife, born about 1912 in Minnesota, father born Minnesota, mother born Norway
Douglas Johnson 1 son
Raymond Johnson 24 partner
Fern Johnson 17, sister-in-law
Ronald Johnson 1 month
Fred Johnson 33 brother
Inez Johnson 24 sister-in-law
Audrey Johnson 10 months
...a lively household!
...and seemingly the same family in 1940 US Census:
1940
Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
2536 Fourth Avenue
Dwight H Johnson 40
Hazel Johnson 28 born about 1912 Minnesota
Douglas Johnson 11
Shirley A Johnson 8
Minnesota Historical Society Death Index
Name: Shirley Ann Boisen
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1932
Birth City: Lac Que Parle County
Birth State or Country: Minnesota
Death Date: 30 Sep 1997
Death County: Olmsted
Death City: Rochester
Mother's Maiden Name: Amundson
State File Number: 1997-MN-027522
Mvh
Obit for Anton Olaus Amundson says wife is Jennie Jacobson; a Jennie Jacobson age 18 is in Grant County in 1905 Minnesota State Census; no parents with her. |
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arnebraat
Junior member
Norway
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 20:19:14
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| Thank you, Jane. When it comes to spending time on this, I have the resources because I retired three years ago. But I'm not very experienced in finding sources, so any information regarding relatives makes me very excited and grateful. I stumble upon some information now and then, but I don't have the knowledge or a coherent strategy for exploring ways to the sources. Now I found on Ancestry.com the family tree of Reed and Mary Lou Erickson in search for Amund Amundson, and in this tree Anton and Jennie Jacobsen appear. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/4024570/family?fpid=6246018118 I submitted a wish on getting in contact. Maybe people with that amount of interest for family story are keen on more information about the ancestors. My next task will be to summarize for my own use an understandable information bank with all the information you and others provide about this topic. |
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jkmarler
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Try to find descendants of Lena Gilbertson, ND
