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Peter Lee
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 Posted - 12/08/2013 : 04:47:46
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Looking for some help tracking down family (siblings and parents, not husband and children) of Maren Hansen, born in Bergen in 1831. Her birth record from 2/8/1831 is here: (Bergen - Korskirken - 1823-1835 Ministerialbok- page 253 - #16).
It lists parents of Hans Henrich Clausen and Maren Helene Lambertsdatter, and mentions the number 150, which I have tried to find what that is referring to and cannot.
There are multiple references to Hansen relatives here in Minnesota, and I am certain they come from this branch of the family, but I cannot track down her siblings. I tried paging through the births in Korskirken looking for the same parents, but came up empty. There is also knowledge of some German in this part of the family, which makes sense coming from Bergen. |
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hasto
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 07:01:08
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eibache
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 07:51:55
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Marriage record April 23.
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Edited by - eibache on 12/08/2013 10:18:32 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 08:20:21
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Maren Helene , 1831 #16.
Brother Albert Marthin, 1826 #3.
Brother Niels Ericsen, 1824 #72.
Brother Hans Henrich, 1819 #109.
Sister Cecilia Kirstine, 1817 #68.
Sister Inger Christine, 1821 #10.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 12:35:32
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Translation of the column headings on the birth/baptism page for Maren Helen Hansdatter would appear to indicate that the "150" is part of the family's residence address at that time.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na22.html
The database "Døypte i Bergen 1816-1894" that Harald links to above is quite informative for any children born after 1816 to that couple. I found that searching it for mother (mor) with last name (etternamn) starting with "Lam" very quickly narrowed down the possibles to a easily browsed list. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 15:42:53
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The numbers indicating where the family was living is a "rode" number here #23 and a number of the building in most cases 150.
See map.
See present map Skuteviken - note also Lambertsvei and Skuteviksveien.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 16:57:44
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Maren Hansdatter (Hansen), her father Hans Hendrich Hansen (Clausen) age 11 in 1801, house nr 83, 22nd Rode, a brother Jan Petter 5 and a sister Sara Sophia age 1
Parents; Hans Hendrich Clausen and Cecilia Catrina Johannesdatter.
Exept for Olsen, Hansen was and still is one of the most common lastnames in Norway.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 19:47:58
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Maren Helene Erichsdatter (Lammertsen), baptized Jan 13 1787 #480. Father Lambert Erichsen, Husøen - mother Inger Christina Lammertsen, 1801 with two sons and two daugters.
Lambert Erichsen, Husøen and Inger Christina Nielsdatter, Winning were married Oct 9 1779, 35th record in 1779. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 19:48:46
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Cecilia Katrina Johannesdatter (Rødder) married (in Korskirken) Hans Henrich Clasen on July 26. 1786, engaged Mai 1.
Right page 3. couple from bottom link
26 "Ung karl" Bachelor Hans Henrich Clasen, "Kipper-svend" Cooper and maid Cecilia Katharine Rødder.
Her father was Johannes Rødder.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/08/2013 02:29:51 |
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 13/08/2013 : 04:17:52
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Thank you so much for your help. This is not the first time you have given me great help. I am going to try to move forward from those siblings to see who might be connected to the Hansens I have names for in Minnesota. Maren did not leave until 1884, maybe some of the Hansen's I have names for were nieces and nephews and not siblings.
Do any of those names stick out as less Norwegian and more German sounding? Googling Lambertson it sounds as though it may be. Maybe the German there was rumor of was much further back than the notes I have suggested.
We were in Norway recently, visiting some of these places. We saw a concert in Korskirken. We also visited a farm in Hedmark that I may never have found without help from this website. Thanks! |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/08/2013 : 08:56:44
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- The origin of the familyname Rødder is unknown to me, but there were Rødders in Norway in the 1600s.
The origin of Rødder might be German or Danish.
But many Norwegians will at some point find an immigrant in the family-tree.
- Lambert /Lambertsen, not common in Norway, but the Lamberts I have seen in the censuses were born in Norway, therefore I believe it`s a Norwegian name, but the name is mentioned in a doc. from Oslo 1302, Lambert Pralenberg, a chaplan, his origin is unknown, probably German/Polish.
You are right.
It was a great German influence in Bergen as traders from the1300s, called "Hanseater" Hanseatic league,many of these settled down there.
It was a German cargo ship that brought the black plague to Norway 1349 where half of the population died.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/08/2013 18:35:03 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/08/2013 : 11:43:03
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When you visited Korskirken, did you notice that one of the cemeteries is named St. Martini cemetery?
Cesilia (Catrine) Rødder was buried there on July 4. 1807.
Rode 24/64 left page 2. funeral in Julius (July) Link
"Bøtker arbeidsmand" Cooper laborer Hans Hend. Clausen "kone" wife Cesilia Rødder age 48.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/08/2013 21:07:04 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 13/08/2013 : 20:44:46
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Below is a post by a person who was researching this family in 2006 and some information from the post:
http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=28007&sid=f6af0281f42a920597002c0e3960beb0
Hans Hendrick Clasen and Cicelia Catharina Johannesdtr Rødder
CHILDREN
Alida Helene born 25.5 1786
Bergitta " 28.9 1788
Hans Henrich " 29.5 1791 <---Maren Hansen's father
Jan Jochum " 21.4 1795
Jan Peder " 2.11 1796
Sara Sophia 24.18 1800 |
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 15/08/2013 : 05:01:37
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Kåre -
The only cemetery near the church was a small one right next to it. I tried to find it on google maps but could not. Did you know where the location of St. Martini was?
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Peter |
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Peter Lee
Starting member
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Posted - 15/08/2013 : 05:04:10
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JaneC -
Thank you for finding that, do you know of a way to send a message to that user? It would be interesting to share information with them.
Thanks,
Peter |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/08/2013 : 09:47:53
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Hi.
I misunderstood the information.
Korskirken has only one cemetery, St. Martini.
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Parents and Siblings of Maren Hansen
