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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2013 :  11:36:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are 95 gravestones in Korskirken cemetery, St. Martini, some only with initials or illegible font link

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 16/08/2013 14:26:54
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 16/08/2013 :  18:01:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Peter Lee

JaneC - Thank you for finding that, do you know of a way to send a message to that user? It would be interesting to share information with them. Thanks, Peter


Hi Peter, that site requires registration and I believe there is a fee. Some volunteers on this forum may be subscribers, so if you do not wish to register/subscribe, you could specifically request help in making the contact.

Kċre, that's very interesting, and touching, to find such a tiny cemetery in Norway where an ancestor of Peter is buried.
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Peter Lee
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USA
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  04:14:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mystery number one solved! Maren and her husband, Ole Engen, are buried next to two people (same plot) who were unfamiliar at first. Much earlier I found one to be a granddaughter-in-law. The other I suspected to be a relative of Maren, but only now have proved it.

Maren's older brother Albert Marthin (listed earlier in this topic in Maren's list of siblings) also left Norway for Minnesota. He lived in Rushford, MN and had several children, including a son Albert, who died in 1904 of typhoid fever. Albert A. Hansen is buried in Lakewood Cemetery, Minnespolis, next to his Aunt and Uncle Ole Engen and Maren Hansen Engen. As absolute proof, the Minnesota Historical Society has death certificate information online, which sometimes includes mother's maiden name. Albert Marthin mother's maiden name was listed as Lamberson.

The second main "Hansen" mystery is a letter from 1962 from an Oscar Hasen. I am guessing he is a grandson of one of the other brother in the list of siblings. I will try what I have learned to trace his father in the online records. His father's name was Henry. Could Henry have come from something else? I believe there was a Helge in my family that became Henry.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  04:26:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henry could be Henrik or Hendrik or Henrich in Norway. Where did the letter come from, US or Norway?
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  05:58:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The letter came from Tacoma Washington to Minnesota in 1962 from an Oscar Hansen that for sure was related to this family. The letter came with some amazing details about his life, which helped me track down with 100 certainty this Oscar Hansen as a married person in the 1920/30/40 censuses approximately. Finding him as a youngster was harder, but I think I followed him (the letter mentioned not only his age but month of birthday). So the family I found with him as a young person (his parents and siblings) is less certain but I am hopeful. I learned enough about his father Henry looking at the earlier censuses that I hope to find him using the Norwegian archives. Born in 1849, he is the perfect age to be a son of one of the other siblings listed in this topic.

Of course you are right, this story is full of the name Henrich. He could have been Henrich Hansen and changed to Henry Hansen sometime in the U.S.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/08/2013 :  14:16:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Oscar died in Washington and you have his exact date of death you could request a copy of his obituary thorugh the Washington State Library Ask-a-Librarian obituary request program. Its free and takes 6 to 8 weeks to received PDF via email. That might list surviving siblings and details about the family to help you.
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 22/09/2013 :  06:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a great obituary for Albert Martin (f. 1826) from Rushford, Minnesota. A couple intersting points: "he learned the fine confectionary and baker's trade, from Germans who came to Norway .." For one thing, the mentioning of Germans fits with my information that was there was some German in this family (they seemed to stop short of saying he was descended from, but it seems odd they would bring it up unless it was important). Maren's husband, Ole Engen, who came down to Bergen from Romsdal near Innfjorden, was a Baker's apprentice (I have seen notes mentioning he had a diploma, so he must have had some official training). This then is a possible way my great great grandparents met, through cooking school! It mentions another son of Albert Martin that I had seen reference to, Melvin, and finally mentions "His other living relatives consist of only one sister, Mrs. Ole Engen.."
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Peter Lee
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Posted - 22/09/2013 :  06:36:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While I am still waiting for the obituary for Oscar from the Washington State Library, I have confirmed Oscar's family (in his early years) through other sources. His father in the U.S. was Henry J. (from census data). Henry J was Henrich Johan, born in 1849, baptised in Korskirken #17 : http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1960&idx_id=1960&uid=ny&idx_side=-134
His father was Hans Henrich (f. 1819 listed in the list of siblings above)
His marriage is listed here, #4 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8663&idx_id=8663&uid=ny&idx_side=-56
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Peter Lee
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USA
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Posted - 22/09/2013 :  06:49:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another picture I had that I knew fit into this family somehow (not through the Hansen name but other clues) was labeled "The Rosenberg's, Dad's aunt." Through sources on Ancestry.com I have confirmed that the aunt was Inger (f. 1822) listed in the siblings above.

A postcard I have sent from Bergen to Minneapolis in 1938 was sent by Inger's grandson (whose last name happened to be Hanson but only by coincidence).

In short, I had numerous references, pictures, letters, etc. that I knew were from this family, but was having a hard time figuring out where everything fit. It is now pretty clear. Thank you for your help!
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