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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/01/2017 : 07:06:34
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There are two freely available transcriptions of the passenger list of Therese / Theresa of the 1870 passage. One is at NorwayHeritage: The NorwayHeritage transcription of the 1870 Theresa list, #308: http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1895
Then there is this one on the Therese in 1870 In the Bergen to Quebec ships lists at the Digitalarivet. Here is Britha's listing:
13821Bergen 1870 April 20 Britha Johannesdatter Vigøren f 20 Vik Therese
She is one of ten people from Vik on the ship. I assume these lists are created from the landings list in Quebec.
[13737 Bergen 1870 April 20 Anna Evindsdatter Lilleøren f 24 Vik Therese 13738 Bergen 1870 April 20 Ole Olsen Holen m 21 Vik Therese 13739 Bergen1870 April 20 Ole Pedersen Hove m 29 Vik Therese 13740 Bergen 1870 April 20 Johanne Hove f 26 Vik Therese 13741 Bergen 1870 April 20 Marith Olsdatter Hove f 2 Vik Therese 13815 Bergen 1870 April 20 Marthe Eriksdatter Lonne f 37 Vik Therese 13816 Bergen1870 April 20 Anfind Andersen Brudevold m 28 Vik Therese 13817Bergen 1870 April 20 Lasse Andersen Brudevold m 16 Vik Therese 13818 Bergen 1870 April 20 Cecilia Nilsdatter f 65 Vik Therese 13821Bergen 1870 April 20 Britha Johannesdatter Vigøren f 20 Vik Therese
Bolded are the names not in the parish register of 1870 utflyttedes in Vik. (The two 20 year Brithes one in 1870 and the other in 1873 are different people, 1873 Brithe had farm name listed something starting with a G and the Brithe leaving in 1870 is plainly listed as Vigøren. I initially thought there was some kind of mixup in the records I think rather than a scramble in the records confusing two different events and people, I think they are just two different people, no scramble.)
If all goes well this should be a link to pg 14 of the Theresa passenger list on which Brithe appears: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=621&
In the utflytedes 1-10 are the people leaving Vik in 1870 before the sail date of the Theresa: SAB, Vik Sokneprestembete, Parish register (official) no. A 9, 1866-1877, p. 315 Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070116330207
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/01/2017 : 17:26:41
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Here is the Ancestry.com transcription for the arrival.
Britha Johannesdatter Vijoren in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Britha Johannesdatter Vijoren Gender: Female Age: 20 Birth Year: abt 1850 Date of Arrival: 3 Jun 1870 Vessel: Theresa Search Ship Database: Search for the Theresa in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
The two Betsy's found by Nancy in the 1870 Census.
Betsy on page 2 wth the Boyd family Census was taken on June 21
Betsy on page 9 with the Wardall family Census was taken on June 28
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/01/2017 : 17:46:23
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These have been posted before in this topic, but here are the Vik bygdebøker at the Arne Brekke collection:
Author Title Year Call Number Type Notes Hoprekstad, O. Bygdabok for Vik i Sogn, v. 1 1951 DL596.V5 H67 General
Hoprekstad, O Bygdabok for Vik i Sogn, v. 2 1956 DL596.V5 H67 General
Hoprekstad, O. Bygdabok for Vik i Sogn, v. 3A 1957 DL596.V5 H67 Farms Kvamsøy & Arnafjord parishes
Hoprekstad, O. Bygdabok for Vik i Sogn, v. 3B 1958 DL596.V5 H67 Farms Vik parish
Sunde, R. Ein stad skal ein vera 1989 DL596.V5 S8 General,People
Emigration from Vik parish Balvoll, G. Gards- og ættesoge for Vik i Sogn, v. 1 2002 DL596.V5 B34 Farms Seljadalen, Ovrisdalen & Bøadalen; Lacking other volumes in this series
Balvoll, G. Gards- og ættesoge for Vik i Sogn, v. 1-5 2008 DL596.V5 B34 Farms Vik, Arnafjord parish, Vangsnes; Five volumes bound together
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/01/2017 : 22:13:40
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Bygdebøker are a good place to find new information and confirm known information. It helps to live near one of the five or so Uiversities that have large collections. Even for those that live near one of the five, not all of them have all of the books on hand. A solution for me has been to use the services of the University of North Dakota. They have one of the best collections in the country and they are very amenable to doing searches, scanning pages and emailing them to you. They do charge a fee but it is usually reasonable and many times less than the cost for me to park at the University of Minnesota and look at the books themselves. I have been encouraged by the Assistant Archivist to give his name and email address to those that may be able to use his services.
So Nancy if you wish to have UND search for information on some of the families that you have encountered in your search for Betsy please feel free to contact.
Michael Swanson Assistant Archivst Chester Fritz Library
at The University of North Dakota.
email him at michael.swanson@library.UND.edu
You will need to provide him as much information as you can on the person or persons that you wish to learn about.
You can search the collection here
http://library.und.edu/special-collections/bygdebok/ |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/01/2017 : 22:42:49
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Looking at the passenger list for the Therese from Vik that Jackie posted above, it is likely that Cecelia Nilsdatter is the mother of both Lasse Anderson Brudevold and also Anfind. baptism 1 okt 1842 (1 Oct 1842). This family ended up in Iowa as Anfind was married in 1877 in Fayette County Iowa. Then moved to and died in 1906 in Chippewa County Minnesota.
Lasse Andersen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Lasse Andersen Gender: Male Birth Date: 3 aug 1854 Baptism Date: 24 sep 1854 Baptism Place: , Vik I Sogn, Sogn Og Fjordane, Norway Father: Anders Anfinsen Mother: Cecilie Nielsdr FHL Film Number: 278156
Ole Pedersen Hove and wife and daughter ended up in 1880 in Minnesota. But had a stop in Iowa first. Their second daughter Gjertrud was born on June 26, 1870.
Gjertrud Hove in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Gjertrud Hove Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 26 Jun 1870 Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1870 Baptism Place: Ridgeway, Iowa Father: Ole Pedersen Hove Mother: Johanne Ols?? Church Name: Madison Church Location: Ridgeway, Iowa
I have not seen much connection between where these passengers ended up in America and the places where Betsy has been found such as Northwood, Iowa. However many of them did end up in other parts of Iowa. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/01/2017 : 16:39:00
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The girl next to Britha Johannesdatter Vigøren on the ship manifest from Norway Heritage for the Theresa was Betsie !! Øhreim also age 20 but from Bergen not Vik.
This is likely her baptism record in Ancestry.com
Betty Olufine Jacobsdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Betty Olufine Jacobsdatter [Betty Olufine Ohreim] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 3 feb 1850 Baptism Place: Domkirken, Bergen, Hordaland, Norway Father: Jacob Ohreim Mother: Berthe Marie Hansen FHL Film Number: 278099
Oddly enough she is not with the family in the 1865 Census.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1301&kenr=0001&bnr=0597&lnr=000
The whole family except for Betty Olufine left for America in 1866 and at least a good part of the family can be found in Chicago. Not all of the data is spot on but I would venture to say that Betty ended up in Chicago as well and that this is her marriage record.
Betty Orem in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920 Name: Betty Orem Age: 29 Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1851 Marriage Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1880 Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Spouse Name: T. Emil Hersether Spouse Age: 39 Spouse Gender: Male FHL Film Number: 1030112
Not a good connection with Betsy Johnson here.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 17:30:04
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I'm moving up the index formerly on page 13 in the interest of making the volume of this topic more workable:
Additional topics: Betsy Johnson reboot #1 http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6252&SearchTerms=betsy,johnson Additional topics: Betsy Johnson reboot #2 http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6492&SearchTerms=betsy,johnson Birthdate calculation mention and discussion pg 4 Birthdate and year recap pg 16 Census, 1865 Norway list of Bet* born Bergen 1851 +/- 5 years pg 4 Census, 1870 US Betsy Johnson pg 4 Census, 1880 US Betsy Anderson pg 3 Census, 1880 US Betsy Anderson pg 2 Census, 1880 US Betsy Anderson pg 4 Census, 1885 Iowa Betsy Anderson pg 3 Census, 1895 Iowa Betsy Anderson pg 4 Census, 1900 US Anne Miller pg 4 Census, 1900 US Betsy Anderson possible pg 12 Census, 1900 US Gustav Anderson pg 4 Census, 1900 US Ida Christine pg 4 Census, 1906 Canada John Anderson possible pg 13 Census, 1910 US Betsy Anderson pg 1, 4 Census, 1920 US Betsy Anderson possible pg 3, 17 Census, 1925 Iowa Gustav Anderson pg 11 Census, 1925 Iowa Ida Christine Anderson Anderson pg 1 Census, 1930 US Betsy Anderson pg 4 Clue Betsy Anderson’s maiden name Runyan research pg 8. 9, 17, 18 Clue family consisted of only two children research pg 13 Clue G.L. Johnson research pg 7, 8, Betsy Reboot #1, Clue Vik in Sogn and Fjordane research pg 19, 20, 21 Clue Lewis Johnson research pg 15, 19 Clue H Johnson research pg 15, 16 Clue research on shipmates of Theresa 1870 pg 1, 17, 21 Death certificate, Oscar Anderson gives Runyan as Betsy’s maiden name pg 8, 17, 18 Death record, transcription of Betsy Anderson’s pg 3 DNA discussed pg 18 & Betsy Reboot #2 Documents and letters, various Betsy Anderson family pg 5 Family of Johannes Gullaksen Vigøren pg 19, 20,21, Betsy reboot #2 Johnson bios from 1884 Worth county history book pg 5 List of Brita Johnsdatter from 1865 census in Hordaland parishes pg 12 List of Candidate based on Bergen ship lists 1865-1871 by sex, age, leaving date pg 5 List of Candidate from Norway Heritage Passenger list database pg 5 List of possible Johnson family HeritageQuest 1870 & 1880 b Norway heads of household Boone County Iowa pg 5 List of possible Johnson family HeritageQuest 1870 b Norway heads of household in 1870 Worth County Iowa pg 5 List of Swedish Lutheran churches in counties known and speculated of Betsy Anderson pg 17 Marriage record survey reported pg 19 Name in US and year recap pg 17 Norwegian candidate, Anne Elisabet Grieg b 28 Feb 1853 pg 2 Norwegian candidate, Anne Lisabeth Jensdatter b 28 Feb 1850 pg 2, 3 Norwegian candidate, Beret Anne b 28 Feb 1850 pg 11 Norwegian candidate, Berethe Johnsdatter b 28 Feb 1848 pg 10. 14 Norwegian candidate, Berthe Johannesdatter b 21 Feb 1850 p 10 Norwegian candidate, Betsie Øhreim b 31 Dec 1849 pg 1, 21 Norwegian candidate, Betsy Hartvig b 6 June1849 pg 1 Norwegian candidate, Betsy Jansdatter Rytter b 9 Mar 1853 pg 1 Norwegian candidate, Betsy Lockwood b 24 Nov 1850 or 2 Oct 1851 pg 6 Norwegian candidate, Betzy Marthilda Tønsberg 7 Oct 1851 pg 1 Norwegian candidate, Brita Johannesdatter b 6 May 1851 pg 12 Norwegian candidate. Brithe Johannesdatter Vigøren b 10 Mar 1849 pg 19, 21 Norwegian candidate, Britta Johannesdatter b 22 Nov 1849 pg 12, 13 Norwegian candidate, Brith Johannesdatter b 15 June 1851 pg 17 Norwegian candidate, Brita Johnsdatter b 22 Nov 1849 pg 5, 13 Norwegian candidate, Brithe Johnsdatter b. 25 Feb 1850 pg 10 Norwegian candidate, Elen Birgitte Johansdatter b 10 Dec 1849 pg 11 Norwegian candidate, Elisabeth Anne Pedersdatter b. 21 Feb 1851 pg 11 Norwegian candidate, Elisabet Johannesdatter b 2 Apr 1850 pg 16, 17 Norwegian candidate, Georgine Wilhelmine Jørgensdatter only female born Bergen 28 Feb 1850 pg 6 Norwegian candidate, Kirstine Elisabet Eliasdatter b 28 Feb 1850 pg 3, 6 Norwegian candidate, Lisabeth Johansdatter b. 10 Dec 1851 pg 17 Obituary, Transcription of Betsy Anderson’s 1934 pg 3 Records of Alexander Anderson pg 12 Records of Alexander Anderson, the husband pg 14, 15 Records of Elmer Anderson pg 14, 18 Records of Gunnerius Johnson family in Boone county pg 13 Records of Oscar Anderson pg 14 Records of Johnson surnamed, born Norway, parental aged residents of Boone county, Iowa in 1870 pg 15 Records of singleton Johnson in counties where Betsy lived pg 5, 15, 16, 17
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 18:14:18
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Ole Pedersen Hove and wife and daughter ended up in 1880 in Minnesota. But had a stop in Iowa first. Their second daughter Gjertrud was born on June 26, 1870.
Gjertrud Hove in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Gjertrud Hove Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 26 Jun 1870 Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1870 Baptism Place: Ridgeway, Iowa Father: Ole Pedersen Hove Mother: Johanne Ols?? Church Name: Madison Church Location: Ridgeway, Iowa
I have not seen much connection between where these passengers ended up in America and the places where Betsy has been found such as Northwood, Iowa. However many of them did end up in other parts of Iowa.
Ridgeway and Northwood are about 70 miles apart, Ridgeway to the east of Northwood.
Who were Gertrude's faddernes?
Are you able to access the baptisms about 1870-1874 of target Brithe's extended family in Iowa? She may turn up to be among the faddernes, a small invisible thread. |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 18:47:39
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quote: Are you able to access the baptisms about 1870-1874 of target Brithe's extended family in Iowa? She may turn up to be among the faddernes, a small invisible thread.
If you are referring to ELCA records yes a few, even tho the title would lead you to believe that the records start in 1875. Here is one. Witnesses are Markus Hus?, Ole Eriksen, Kari Markusdatter, Eline Olsdatter.
Syvert Gulliksen in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Syvert Gulliksen Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 30 Apr 1871 Baptism Date: 28 May 1871 Baptism Place: Worth, Lake Mills and Northwood, Iowa Father: Aslak Gulliksen Mother: Ingeborg Syversdatter Church Name: Silver Lake Lutheran Church Church Location: Northwood, Iowa
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 18:54:39
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Here is son Peter. With witnesses named Rustad. Haven't we come across Rustad in this thread earlier. Thered is so big it makes it a little hard to remember and find things.
Mothers last name seems wrong?
Witnesses are S? Rustad, Markhus Syverstsen, Thina Martinsd., or perhaps Markusdtr. ? , A.H. Rustad.
Potter Gullaksen in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Potter Gullaksen Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 20 Dec 1874 Baptism Date: 18 Jan 1874 Baptism Place: Northwood, Iowa Father: Aslak Gullaksen Mother: Ingeborg Pedersd Church Name: First Lutheran Church Church Location: Northwood, Iowa |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 19:30:23
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Here is Caroline, Witnesses hard to read.
They are John Olson Hovve, Hanna ?, Sever Eriksen, Britha Ellefsdatter,
Karoline Gullekson in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Karoline Gullekson Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 20 Apr 1868 Baptism Date: 24 May 1868 Baptism Place: Worth, Lake Mills and Northwood, Iowa Father: Aslak Gullekson Mother: Ingeborg Syvertsd Church Name: Silver Lake Lutheran Church Church Location: Northwood, Iowa |
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NancyB
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 21:19:45
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
Since Johannes Gullaksen died on 26 January 1907 in Vik in Sogn og Fjordane, there may be a dødfallsprotokol for him . . .
I had a busy few days and was just coming on here to add a notation that my email request has been acknowledged by The Regional State Archives in Bergen. It says they will respond as soon as possible within 3 weeks.
To my surprise I see multiple new posts which I will now work my way through. |
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NancyB
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 21:32:55
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Bygdebøker are a good place to find new information and confirm known information. It helps to live near one of the five or so Uiversities that have large collections. Even for those that live near one of the five, not all of them have all of the books on hand. A solution for me has been to use the services of the University of North Dakota. They have one of the best collections in the country and they are very amenable to doing searches, scanning pages and emailing them to you. They do charge a fee but it is usually reasonable and many times less than the cost for me to park at the University of Minnesota and look at the books themselves. I have been encouraged by the Assistant Archivist to give his name and email address to those that may be able to use his services.
So Nancy if you wish to have UND search for information on some of the families that you have encountered in your search for Betsy please feel free to contact.
Michael Swanson Assistant Archivst Chester Fritz Library
at The University of North Dakota.
email him at michael.swanson@library.UND.edu
You will need to provide him as much information as you can on the person or persons that you wish to learn about.
You can search the collection here
http://library.und.edu/special-collections/bygdebok/
Thank you, lyndal40. My son graduated from the University of North Dakota, so I am familiar with that school. |
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NancyB
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 22:00:53
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
I'm moving up the index formerly on page 13 in the interest of making the volume of this topic more workable:
Thank you, jkmarler. That was quite an undertaking! |
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