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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:01:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Went through 1850-1858 marriages of Stjørdal looking for Peter Iverson marriages only found this one #36 and her farm name given as Hoaas so makes the family look unlikely:

Kildeinformasjon: Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Stjørdal, Ministerialbok nr. 709A14 (1845-1858), Ekteviede 1856, side 453.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2463&idx_id=2463&uid=ny&idx_side=-361
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NancSanchez

Hi, it looks like Anne Marha Olsdatter my great great grandmother and my great great grandfather Peter Iversen lived a long ways away from each other before they got married becuase Bergen and Bolsy are very far aport. I wonder how they met? Very interesting!

I think you need to hold your horses..., your great great grandmother has not been located yet.
There are a few clues to who she could be, but no final proof yet, as far as I can see.

Jan Peter
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One thing to keep in mind, Oliver is a fairly uncommon name in Norway but it could also be an Americanization of people named Ole Iver.
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NancSanchez
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, thanks.

Nancy Sanchez
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:13:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NancSanchez

Hi, I found Oliver arrival information on Ancestry and and Oliver Everson's birth date is listed on Ancestry as well.

Nancy

What is Olivers birth date? The various census information for 1900, 1910 and 1920 gives scattering information, both for birth and immigration.
And where did you find his fathers name and year of birth?

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 12/09/2013 18:14:13
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NancSanchez
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:43:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Hi, I found Peter's information in the 1880 census and Oliver's DOB and arrival is conflicting with the 1900 census and New York Passenger lists 1820-1957. I have no idea which one is correct. Peter's information was given to me from someone from ancestry. I posted a few messages about information about him on ancestry. I have attached each of the documents.

Nancy

1880 United States Federal Census
about Peter Everson Name: Peter Everson
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maggie Everson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Laborer
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Everson 40
Maggie Everson 45
Paul Everson 7

Name: Oliwer Everson
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1893
Birth Date: abt 1861
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: American
Place of Origin: United States of America
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Suevia
Search Ship Database: Search the Suevia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Name: Oliver Severn
[Oliver Everson]
Age: 30
Birth Date: Nov 1869
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Seattle Ward 9, King, Washington
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1886
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Amanda Severn
Marriage Year: 1896
Years Married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Oliver Severn 30
Amanda Severn 31
Hilda O A Severn 1





Nancy Sanchez
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:45:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the details from the Washington State records :

Record Series: Death Records
Collection: Washington State Death Records
County: Statewide

Da Reference Number: {56482A6B-605D-4A3B-9D85-0C8862AA4484}
Image Number: 1753
Document Number: 59
Document Reference Id: 152
First Name: Oliver
Last Name: Everson
Date Of Death: 2 Jun 1924
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Father Name: Peter Everson
Mother Name: Robeck
Batch Id: 276339
Batch Locality: Washington, United States
Death Place: Bellingham, Whatcom, Washington
Mother Name Surname: Robeck
Spouse Name: Amanda Everson
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JaneC
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nancy, the 1880 census record does not seem to pertain to your family...
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jwiborg
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:55:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was about to ask the same....
How do you connect Peter Everson in Chicago, Cook, Illinois to Oliver Everson in Seattle, King, Washington?

Jan Peter
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:57:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Your guy? Not sure but interesting confluence of name Oliver Eversen and place San Francisco and water based occupation:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=KRISTUT&personpostnr=24601&merk=24601

I think this is the one and only match of Oliver in the Norwegian records found so far. Good finding, Jackie!

Name and year of emigration is correct, and his first child was born in California.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 12/09/2013 18:58:34
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JaneC
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  18:58:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

First time I see a Peder Iversen married to a Røbæk/Røbek.

The dates of born do not correspond for the parents with the dates given in this forum.

Bergen 1865

- Merchant Peder Gerhard Iversen b. 1828 in Bergen and Inger Anna (Olsdatter) Røbek born 1824 in Molde (Bolsøy?)
The parents with three children in Bergen 1865, no Oliver but an Olaf Severin b. 1859 in Bergen



This is a strong candidate. "Olaf Severin" can be "Oliver Severin" in the USA - "Oliver S." Can we find Olaf Severin going to England? Nancy's family story says Oliver went first to England, as a seaman, then to the West Coast of the USA.

If the forum chooses to ignore the 1880 census, then the birth date of Peter Everson above is not a problem.


Edited by - JaneC on 12/09/2013 19:00:01
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NancSanchez
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  19:05:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually lyndal40 has the same information posted on this forum about Peter Everson. I have no idea if he is the same person.

Nancy

Nancy Sanchez
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  19:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

First time I see a Peder Iversen married to a Røbæk/Røbek.

The dates of born do not correspond for the parents with the dates given in this forum.

Bergen 1865

- Merchant Peder Gerhard Iversen b. 1828 in Bergen and Inger Anna (Olsdatter) Røbek born 1824 in Molde (Bolsøy?)
The parents with three children in Bergen 1865, no Oliver but an Olaf Severin b. 1859 in Bergen



This is a strong candidate. "Olaf Severin" can be "Oliver Severin" in the USA - "Oliver S." Can we find Olaf Severin going to England? Nancy's family story says Oliver went first to England, as a seaman, then to the West Coast of the USA.

If the forum chooses to ignore the 1880 census, then the birth date of Peter Everson above is not a problem.



You are right!

Jan Peter
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jwiborg
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  19:18:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you are right, Kåre and Jane. This must be the guy.

#135 Olaf Severin
Born 06 Nov 1859
Christening 27 Nov 1859, Bergen, Hordaland, Norway
Parents: Rebslagersvend (Ropemaker apprentice) Peder Gerhard Iversen & Inger Anne Røbek

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 12/09/2013 19:31:27
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JaneC
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  19:23:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
About Olaf Severin birth record - good find!
This is brilliant progress!

So Olaf Severin is born 06 November 1859.
The 1900 US census says "Oliver S" was born in November.
1910 and 1920 US census say he's born in 1860, which also agrees with his death record.
Oliver S. parents on death record are Peter Everson and NN Robeck.
Olaf Severin parents are Peder Iversen and Inger Anne Røbek.

Oliver S in the USA named his son IVAR

It's a good fit!

lyndal40 found the immigration record of Oliver arriving San Francisco via Hamburg, which matches jkmarler's emigration record, for a trip beginning 23 May 1893 in Kristiansand on the Hamburg line. Nancy's Oliver had lived previously in San Francisco, known via death information about his daughter Hilda. (I'll try to find where I read that - got it - Hilda died 1901 in Washington; Washington digital archives death record says she was born 1898 in San Francisco, California). The locations of San Francisco and Seattle also fit with family memories that Oliver worked for the Robert Dollar Lines, which were based exclusively on the West Coast at this time (see Wikipedia). I agree - the record most likely refers to Nancy's Oliver.

Edited by - JaneC on 12/09/2013 21:49:30
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