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davidnt
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 Posted - 20/09/2013 : 21:29:32
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Just got some correspondence from someone who has copies of the old Silver Lake Lutheran Church (Silver Lake Twp, Worth County, IA) records, and surprise, surprise; a (“hard to read”) funeral entry in 1874 for Berthe Marie Troo, age 5 months at death, daughter of Osten Nilsen Troo and Marit Knudsatter! So Mary turns out to be Knudsdatter, which makes perfect sense: 1st daughter named Berthe after her paternal grandmother Berte Øystensdtr, 1st son named Nels after paternal grandfather Nils Nilsen, 2nd son named Knut after maternal grandfather Knud “What’s-his-name!”. Unfortunately there’s no marriage or other record for Osten & Mary in the church book.
So now I have to figure out which Knudsdtr she is since that’s a very common name. I thought I was on to something when I found a Marit Knusdtr whose mother was Sigrid but she’s still in Norway in 1875 census.
Not having much luck pursuing Segrie or phonetic variants as a farm name in the Oluf Rygh database so if anyone has suggestions I’d very much appreciate hearing them.
I’ll keep bulldozing through the records.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/09/2013 : 16:32:24
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Here are some Marit Knu* born around 1851 and having a farm or birthplace name resembling Sig* from the 1865 Census.
NHDC1
As you can see there is only one. Subbing in seg for the farm name, I do not find any candidates. |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/09/2013 16:59:48 |
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joyhart
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Posted - 21/09/2013 : 20:30:05
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Austin/Øysten was born in Vang, Valdres, Oppland County. I like candidate for his wife could be Marit Knutsdatter Hermundstad-Haugen, also from Vang.
Here the family is checking out of the parish in 1855.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=18&filnamn=valdutfl&gardpostnr=4685&merk=4685#ovre
Some Hermundstads used the surname "Haugen" in the US; others went by their patronymic name. I would ignore the "Segrie" name. That was Marit's paternal grandmother's name (Sigri). |
Personal genealogy focus: Goodhue County, Minnesota and the Norway kommunes of L�rdal; Aurland and Vang in Valdres. |
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joyhart
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Posted - 21/09/2013 : 22:26:09
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Personal genealogy focus: Goodhue County, Minnesota and the Norway kommunes of L�rdal; Aurland and Vang in Valdres. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 03:19:13
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| if you don't already know the church the family belonged to in South Dakota, you might find it by following up by finding the children''confirmation records to see if their birth dates and baptismal places are in the record. Then you might generate the name of the church where the parents' funerals were held. |
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davidnt
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 01:02:14
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Thanks for the suggestion on researching church records. I don’t know what the experience of others has been but I have never had any response to an inquiry that I have made directly to a church. I have only been able to access church records by finding a 3rd party who has been able to suggest someone who might have access to the records. If anyone has suggestions on whom I might contact regarding church records 1879-1895 in Brookings and Lake Counties SD I would very much appreciate it.
I spent a lot of time trying to find Marit Knudstr this weekend but always seemed to encounter some roadblock that prevented me from connecting her to my “Mary Segrie”, too old, too young, married, dead, or still in Norway in the 1875 census.
One longshot is Marit Knudsdtr “Røvang”. I haven’t had the time to pursue it too far but here is some background on her:
Father Knud Knudesn born 1799 (father = Knud Pedersen)
Mother Berit Arnesdtr born 1804 (father = Arne Johannesen)
Married 3 Nov 1839 Vestre Slidre, Opland, Norway
Berit Knudsdtr born 20 Mar 1840
Anne Knudsdtr born 18 Nov 1842
Arne Knudsen born 28 Nov 1844
Marit Knudsdtr born 16 Mar 1846
Arne Knudsen born 21 Dec 1849
In 1865 Census Berit Arnesdatter marital status = “e” (widow) with her son Arne. She is “Dagarbeider” (day worker?) in the household of Finkel Elendsen & Sigri Alfsdatter on the Moen farm, Vestre Slidre, Opland.
Emigration entry Vestre Slidre prestegjeld 1865-1880 page 273 25 Mar 1867 Berit (#120), Arne (#122) & Marith (#121) to Amerika [urlhttp://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?urnread_imagesize=gigant&info=ingen&hode=nei&show=274&uid=321233&js=j][/url]
Why consider her? They are on the Nord Cap departing Bergen 24 Apr 1867 arriving Quebec 9 Jun 1867 along with (whatever happened to?) Østen Nielsen Myhre & Knut Torstensen Vevlen (Osten Nelson Tro sold his homestead property in Brookings County SD 21 Nov 1882 to Knute Weflen – who is in the 1880 Federal Census in Brookings County, as is Austin Troe). Maybe best friends and spouses were made on this voyage?
As always I’d love to hear from anyone who thinks this is possibility, or ridiculously off-base!
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 03:30:48
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Bad news - Marit Knutson Rovang married Ole Olson Arnegaard. Married in Rice County, Minnesota, and later lived in Traill County, North Dakota.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=37707238
Marit Knutson Rovang
Birth: Mar. 16, 1846 in Oppland County, Norway
Death: Sep. 8, 1886 in Mayville, Traill County, North Dakota, USA
The bio included says Marit departed Bergen, Norway, 24 April 1867, on the ship Nordcap, and arrived in Quebec, Canada, on 9 June 1867, in company with her mother Berit and her brother Arne. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 04:38:04
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quote:
Originally posted by davidnt
Thanks for the suggestion on researching church records. I don’t know what the experience of others has been but I have never had any response to an inquiry that I have made directly to a church. I have only been able to access church records by finding a 3rd party who has been able to suggest someone who might have access to the records. If anyone has suggestions on whom I might contact regarding church records 1879-1895 in Brookings and Lake Counties SD I would very much appreciate it.
There are at least 3 other ways for you to access church records. Write the archivist at www.elca.org to find if any of the church registers were microfilmed.
You can borrow the microfilm (for fees and postage) from ELCA archives or you can hire them to search the records for you. You can also take a 1 week temporary trial subscription at www.archives.com where 3 databases of ELCA church register records reside. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 06:40:38
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Well, somebody using Sigrirud as a last name came to US. These are BLM records for Barron County, Wisconsin:
SIGRIRUD OLE K 14 32 N 12 W 160 04 2146 1880/05/15
SIGRIRUD OLE K 14 32 N 12 W 0 04 2146 1880/05/15
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JaneC
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 15:30:05
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Unfortunately, it looks like Marit did come to US but....
These 3 people in the Minnesota death index have a mother whose maiden name is Sigrirud:
Eric Severson b. 25 Apr 1878
Olaus Severson b. 5 Mar 1880
Clara Rosina Hovda b. 20 June 1884
In the 1880 census transcribed at digitalarikivet:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=MINN1880&gardpostnr=85470&merk=85470#ovre
And since her name was Mary and her age is a better match to someone born abt 1846 /1847 this is probably the Marit Knudsdatter age 19 in the 1865 Norwegian census. Marit and Ole are buried in Frankford twp in Mower county with last name as "Bergebraaten". Her stone reads 1846-20 Apr 1935. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 16:30:56
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| In the marriage database at www.mncounty.com there is a Peder Sigre m. Berit Hagebak on 18 Sept 1886 in Lac Qui Parle county. This is the earliest of someone in the database of a similar name. |
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What happened to Øysten Nilsen Mhyre
