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Sherry
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Posted - 27/07/2002 :  00:50:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At Digitalarkivet, I found information that my great grandparents sailed from Kristiania on the ship Angelo (owned by the Wilson Line), departing 14 May 1880, destination Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Under a column titled "Permission" was the name T. Arents. Am not sure if that is the name of the agent or ?? I am trying to find out the name of the ship they sailed to America (or Canada?) on, the port of exit, port of arrival and date of arrival. Can anyone suggest where I should go next? In the Digitalarkivet, their names are listed as Andreas Anders., Marthe Anders., and Gunda Anders.


Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 27/07/2002 :  09:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
T. Arents in the "Permission" column is not the agent, but the military official. The name of the agent was W. Pay who represented the Anchor Line. The authorization was to convey emigrants via Britain to New York and from there to the final destination in America.

In our database of "Arrivals reported in Norwegian newspapers" for May 1880, I find:
S/S Devonia, Anchor Line - arrived to New York 1880-05-22 (probably too early)
S/S Bolivia, Anchor Line - arrived to New York 1880-05-31
S/S Anchoria (1), Anchor Line - arrived to New York 1880-06-06

I think you will find them on the S/S Bolivia or S/S Anchoria

Børge Solem
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Sherry
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Posted - 30/07/2002 :  23:23:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I just made an error on a reply so will try again. . .sorry! Re your message, Mr. Solem. Are passenger lists for those ships (S/S Bolivia, S/S. Anchoria (1) on-line anywhere? If they are, I cannot find them. I visited several sites but there was no detail.

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Borge
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Norway
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Posted - 30/07/2002 :  23:57:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those list are probably not online if you can't find them on the "IMMIGRANT SHIPS TRANSCRIBERS GUILD" Passenger lists online. What you have to do then is to order the microfilm containing those lists. For more information about how to do that, read the article about "Hunting Passenger Lists" (link below)

Børge Solem
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Sherry
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Posted - 07/11/2002 :  21:14:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Those list are probably not online if you can't find them on the "IMMIGRANT SHIPS TRANSCRIBERS GUILD" Passenger lists online. What you have to do then is to order the microfilm containing those lists. For more information about how to do that, read the article about "Hunting Passenger Lists" (link below)

Børge Solem



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Sherry
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Posted - 07/11/2002 :  21:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Borge: Better late than never. . .your information was definitely of assistance to me -- along with the folks from TSL -- in finding the ship my great grandparents sailed on to America. After going through the microfilm, I located them on the S/S Castalia, Point of Embarkation: Barrow & Dublin, Date of Arrival in New York June 7 1880. Might this be a possible addition to the "Corresponding Ships for the S/S Angelo journey 14 May 1880 Christiania - Christiansand - Hull? That's the ship my great grandparents sailed on from Oslo to Hull.
Sherry

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Trond
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Norway
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Posted - 08/11/2002 :  03:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sherry,
This would absolutely be a possible addition to our data. We would however like to have some sort of documentation in form of a copy or a digital image of the head of the list?


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Sherry
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Posted - 08/11/2002 :  17:26:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trond: I think I just hit the wrong button and sent a blank message. Will try to do it right this time. I don't have a scanner, but perhaps I could fax or mail something? I copied the "front" page which gives: Name of Vessel, Port of Embarkation, Date of Arrival, and Number. That copy is pretty good. Then there is what I'll call a "second" page which has the captain's signature and attestation. I copied that also but had to do so in 3 parts because it is so wide. In addition, it's a poor copy and would not come through readable on a fax. I would be glad to mail it, though.

You might want to check a message on this subject from a Mr. Harry Dodsworth which he posted 6 Nov 2002 on The Ships List in response to a message I posted that same date. He posted an article which appeared in the New York Times on Monday, June 7, 1880. In this article it says the Castalia arrived on June 6 1880.



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Marsha
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USA
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Posted - 12/11/2002 :  05:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is my first post,hope I am doing it right. My GGrandmother came from Sweden.She left Gothenburg 3 April 1880 aboard the Marsden bound for Hull.I have her Kalkod number 14:339:7478 and her agent was C.A.Berglund.I was told he was an agent for Cunard Lines. She was on The Marsden and from what I have read in here that it was a feeder ship.That may have left Norway and then on to Sweden. With all the information that I have, which I thought was alot I still can't figure out what ship she left England, bound for Boston. Can you give me any ideas on what to do next??

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Trond
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Norway
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Posted - 12/11/2002 :  17:01:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We don’t have any Cunard Line arrivals that fit the date for the journey of S/S Marsdin or other Wilson ship leaving Scandinavia round April 3rd 1880. Wilson Line had a “feeder route” from Gothenburg to Hull.
Generally, the Cunard Line had 2 or 3 departures from Liverpool to New York or Boston in the spring of 1880.
According to other journeys from other Lines, your Cunard ship would have arrived New York or Boston around April 17th – 21st, 1880 and you should look for a passenger list around this dates in New York or Boston.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=1015


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