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davidcarlsen
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hasto
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 Posted - 28/09/2013 : 08:08:22
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Search here Sande døpte
(Fars førenamn = Ole, fars farsnamn børjer med Tolli, Mors førenamn børjar med Gun) |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 28/09/2013 : 12:32:17
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#36 on the female listing of those birth/baptism pages linked is for Johanne Birgithe born 1828 to Ole Tollisson and Gunnild Erichsdatter (each listed with farm name identifiers). From the link 'hasto' provided just above you can find quite a number of additional children born to that couple in Sande, Vestfold.
You don't provide clarification on why you think Johanne Olsdtr and Tolli Pedersen are parents of Ole Tollisson (you have additional info?) but you could use the same database of baptisms in Sande to look for children born/baptised to that couple in that district.
None of those searches will provide you with approximate birth years for either Ole Tollisson or Gunnild Erichsdatter but perhaps they survived to the 1865 census. There are also databases for that census online for your free use and if they appear that census would give age information in 1865 and what time period to begin searching for the actual birth records you desire.
Johanne Olsdtr and Tolli Pedersen might appear in the 1801 census for Sande - if they appear as a married couple you could feel fairly sure that you had found the correct couple and use the information provided on that census to continue your research into the other records.
Another research resource would be to look for the bygdebok for Sande, Vestfold. “Sandeboka, Bygdebok for Sande i Vestfold” -- information gathered from that book could then be verified in the primary records of the parish.
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Hopkins
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eibache
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Posted - 29/09/2013 : 09:11:06
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Ole Tollisen, Stokke and Gunild Eriksdatter, Holm were married Dec 26 1828, see #4.
Gunnild was baptized March 3 1805, 3rd record on right page. Her parents were Erich Gullichsen and Berte Andersdatter, Hedemarksejet.
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eibache
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Posted - 29/09/2013 : 09:19:48
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Ole Tollisens parents were married April 7 1805, 2nd record on right page.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/09/2013 09:53:41 |
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davidcarlsen
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 30/09/2013 : 05:45:26
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| Parish registers for Sande, Vestfold go back to 1753 - were previous records for this area kept under a different parish name? |
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davidcarlsen
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 30/09/2013 : 07:27:26
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Here is another complication : http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8127&idx_id=8127&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
This would appear to be an older brother of Ole. Father is Tolli Pedersen Braaten - does this identify a Tolli with different parents than those identified in the 1801 census referred to above. Also the Peder Christensen Dyllberg may be the father of Tolli, a different one than Peder Christensen Steensrud |
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eibache
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Posted - 30/09/2013 : 10:04:52
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Tollis parents were Peder Chrestensen and Anne Maria Tallachsdatter, Stensrud.
The baptism was April 12 1781.
Witnesses: Gunild Jochumsdatter, Haland, Ole Tostensen, Haraldstuen, Knud Jonsen, Tollerud, Ole Sørensen, Lagaas, Pernille Arnesdatter, Biørgen.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/09/2013 13:27:32 |
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eibache
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Posted - 30/09/2013 : 10:23:46
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Also I am unclear from the 1801 census if this was a second marriage for Peder?
- the 1801 census says Peder Christenssøn "2den gang gift " - it was his 2nd marriage.
The children Johannes, Christian and Karen are most likely from his 1st marriage.
The Tolli born 1781 is not in the census and is most likely dead.
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eibache
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Posted - 30/09/2013 : 10:41:45
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Here is another complication
- I don't see the "complication", is your link the right one?
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Edited by - eibache on 30/09/2013 13:22:04 |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 01/10/2013 : 05:03:30
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I'm not sure now....the farm names have caused me to feel I need to look over this line again more thoroughly.
I found this 1801 census record : http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=11&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=20457&personpostnr=310782&merk=310782#ovre
with a Tollev only 15 but away from his home but at Mellum Stokke which fits with some information. There is also a Johanne Oldsd there. Five years later he would be 20 and she 26 and this is the date of the marriage. This seems to be the correct Tolli (Tollev) but it doesn't seem there is a way to be sure if he is the one born at Steensrud |
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eibache
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Posted - 01/10/2013 : 21:12:57
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Some recaps:
Tolli Pedersen, Stokke/Braaten and Johanne Olsdatter, Stokke were married April 7 1805
Children:
Lars, bapt. Sep 22 1805, Mellem Stokke,
Ole, bapt. Nov 8 1807, Mellom Stokke,
Christopher, Aug 3 1811, Aaseberg,
Christian, Dec 17 1815, Mellom Stokke,
Karen Kistine, Jan 13 1818, Stokke,
Maren Karine, Oct 24 1820, Aaseberg
some of Oles siblings are witnesses at Oles children.
Gunild Erichsdatter, baptized Eidsberg, Østfold March 3 1805, parents Erich Gullichsen and Berte Andersdatter, Hedemarksejet
Ole Tollisen, Stokke and Gunild Erichsdatter, Holm were married Dec 28 1828.
Children:
Johanne Birgitte, Sept 1 1828, Stokke
Tolli Pedersen and Johanne Olsdatter, Dylleberg
Thale Elise, June 21 1831, Søndre Selvigejet
Tolli Pedersen and Johanne Olsdatter, Dylleberg
Olaus, March 11 1834, Grinevolden
No witnesses written
Andrine Olava, March 20 1835, Grinevolden under Store Bekke (Bekkepladsen)
Christopher Tollisen, Stokke
Tolli Marthin, May 20 1838, Store Bekke Ejet
Tolli Pedersen, Stokke
Hans Christian, May 12 1841, Holm
Lars Tollisen, Schjervig, Hans Tollisen, Stokke
Hans Christian, Febr 9 1844, Søndre Wee ejet
Anne Erichsdatter, Sjervigs ejet, Christopher Tollisen, Sjervigs ejet, Hans Tollisen, Dylleberg
Caroline Ottilde, Febr 16 1845, Wear under Søndre Wee
Tolli Pedersen and Johanne Olsdatter, Dylleberg
Andreas, April 10 1848, Vear under søndre Wee
Johan Tollisen, Stokke
Tolli Pedersen, bapt. April 13 1781, parents Peder Chrestensen and Anne Maria Tallachsdatter, Stensrud
1801 census:
Tollev Pedersen, Aas østre, 7 years old, parents Peder Christenssen and Anne Marie Tallaksdatter, Stensrud
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Edited by - eibache on 01/10/2013 21:13:45 |
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 02/10/2013 : 02:50:00
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Thank you so much for all this work, I appreciate it greatly.
The last info on Tolli age 20 in 1801 and Tollev age 7 in 1801 still is confusing. Tolli age 20 is not showing in the 1801 census, a Tollev age 15 is and at the same farm as a Johanne Oldsd. Tollev age 7 would be too young to marry in 1805. Is it likely that Tolli age 20 was gone from home and had a younger brother Tollev who was still at home and is the Tolli who married Johanne Oldsd from Stokke Mellem or that the 15 year old Tollev who was at the farm with Johanne Oldsd married her at age 20 in 1805. If that is the case where is his birth record from around 1786 ? I'm now also curious about Hans Tollisen and Johan Tollisen |
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