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norwaynut
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 Posted - 27/10/2013 : 18:25:42
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First of all there must of been an earlier kirke at Attraa (& variations of spellings) as they are in the Kirke records well before 1800's and this family immigrated in 1836 for USA. Anyone have a photo of earlest Kirke? I have been searching for this Halvor Knudsen and Birthe Torgersdtr Saaler family for five days now. And have found another couple that is mixed in with this family--namely the one that had a child, Kari born in 1804. This family appears to be Halvor Jonsen Saaler and Birgith Torgersdatter. Are they the same family? This Kari age 34 is listed as a daughter to my Halvorson's who immigrated in 1836 for first Rutland County, IL. Then settled in Adams Twp, LaSalle County, IL. Where does this Kari/ Carin belong? Families on Ancestry.com are all over the page in listing the real info. Thanks for any help with this! Lorene |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 18:41:37
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Attrċ stavechurch in Tinn was demolished 1833.
The new church was opened 1836.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 18:54:40
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Sometimes helpful to know what other researchers of the same family have found.
From Norwegian Immigrants to the United States: a Biographical Directory 1825-1843 says this about Halvor Knudsen Saaler & Birgit Tarjesdatter, on pg 59-60:
Halvor the son of Knut Halvorsen Maarheimsrud and Liv Nilsdatter Maarheimsrud baptized in Tinn 3 Dec 1788 m. 28 May 1811 to
Birgit Tarjesdatter baptized the 12th Sunday after Trinity, 1784 (no parish given) parents are Torger Gunbjĝrnsen Stuvetraa and Helga Johnsdatter Maarheim. Birgit was married 1st on 29 May 1804 to Halvor Johnsen Ormsjorden and he died early.
They and their 5 children arrived in New York from Gothenburg, Sweden on 16 Aug 1838 on the Republic. Sources cited are the Tinn parish registers, Tinn-soga II; 275; 1850, 1860 Illinois census, LaSalle county marriages; History of LaSalle county, II:23, 184
The child Kari / Carin must belong to Birgit's first husband who was also named Halvor. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 18:56:44
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The name Saaler confuce me, could it be americanized from Stuvetraae in Atraa?
A Bergitte Torjersdatter age 17 with the parents and a sister Svanow lived on Stuvetraae 1801
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/10/2013 22:30:57 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 19:16:12
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The family em. from Atraa in Tinn Mai 21. 1838.
Halvor Knudsen Saaler age 50 and Birgith Torgersdatter age 50. Children; Kari 34 (bap. in Atrċ Sunday Nov. 11. 1804), Knud 25, Niels 18, Helge (Helga) 15 and Jon 12.
See last couple right page #5&6, the children are #7-8-9-10-11 on the next page
The em. was recorded in Atrċ new church link
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/10/2013 22:46:38 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 19:50:38
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Halvor Knudsen was from farm Ormsjorden (Halvor Ormsjorden) in Atraa when he married Birgith Torjersdatter /Torgersdatter Mai 29. 1804 in Atrċ stave-church, see on top right page #9
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 20:12:11
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Originally posted by Kċarto
The name Saaler confuce me, could it be americanized from Stuveraae in Attraa?
A Bergitte Torjersdatter age 17 with the parents and a sister Svanow lived on Stuvetraae 1801
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Saaler exist in the 1865 census for Tinn, and it was not a sub farm.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/10/2013 : 20:20:19
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Em. from Gothenburg, Sweden on Bark Republic.
The year 1838 is an error.
Halvor brought 2 Muskets with him to America, see passengers 10-16
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JaneC
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norwaynut
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 00:18:07
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| You people are wonderful! This makes more sense! Got confused on the Halvor Saaler and Birgit having this child in 1804. Did find a Torjer b. 1807 that must of been theirs also. Child must of died. But have found that Halvor Knutsen was also listed as Saaler. Now I have the right background and can move forward with that this Kari/ Carin did belong in this family as a half sister. May have more to ask! Thank you so much! Lorene |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 10:48:25
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Birgit Torgersdatter Stuvetraa was married twice and Kari Halvorsdatter born 1804 was Halvor Johnsens child.
1. marriage Halvor Johnsen Ormsjorden "Halvor Ormsjorden" on Mai. 29.1804, he died on Ormsjord, buried in Attraa August 31. 1808 age 29, see right page right chapter #27
2. marriage "ungkarl" Bachelor Halvor Knudsen from farm Marumsrud married widow Birgith Torjersdatter Saaler In Attraa "Onsdag" Wed. Mai 8. 1811, see almost down left page; Onsdag 8th May. Copulerede in Attraae.........link
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Edited by - Kċarto on 29/10/2013 11:21:25 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 10:57:11
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Halvor Knudsen age 13 and with parents; Farmer Knud Halvorsen and Live Nilsdatter, 8 children "Deres bĝrn" on Marumsrue 1801
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 11:01:44
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Originally posted by norwaynut
And have found another couple that is mixed in with this family--namely the one that had a child, Kari born in 1804. This family appears to be Halvor Jonsen Saaler and Birgith Torgersdatter. Are they the same family? This Kari age 34 is listed as a daughter to my Halvorson's who immigrated in 1836 for first Rutland County, IL. Then settled in Adams Twp, LaSalle County, IL. Where does this Kari/ Carin belong? Families on Ancestry.com are all over the page in listing the real info. Thanks for any help with this! Lorene
Kari born 1804 was a halfsister and oldset of the siblings who em. 1836.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 11:29:00
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I have a family tree with some photos to share with you later today 
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 12:39:31
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Family tree for Birgit Torgjersdatter Stuvetraa/Saaler includes photos of Helge/Helga Halvorsdatters family who married Helge Olsen from farm Prestodden in Tinn link
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Edited by - Kċarto on 29/10/2013 14:46:25 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/10/2013 : 14:26:34
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The meaning of the name Saaler is unknown, in 1665 and 1723 Saaler was a sub farn under Skaarberg/Skċrberg in Attraa.
- Stuvetraae, spelled Stuffuertrodt un 1593 and means most likely "Stubber av tre" Stubs of trees.
- Ormsjord, norse mans name Orm; Orms soil/land, most likely named after the first settler Orm.
- Marumsrud or Marum (The ending rud means to clear the land)
The farm is located next to and is named after he river Maar/Mċr starting from the mountain lake Mċrvatn on the mountain plateau Hardangervidda.
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The Halvorsen family from Attraa farm, Tinn, Telem
