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Lkristiansen
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Posted - 14/12/2013 :  13:31:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I´m looking for relatives of Emil Jakobsen (born 1885), Arnt Julius Jakobsen (born 1887), Hilda Marie jakobsen(born 1889) and Hans Jakobsen ( born 1891). They were from Lillestrøm in Norway.

Hopkins
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Posted - 14/12/2013 :  15:19:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The relatives you are hoping to find would be in Norway? or US? or where? Did Emil and family emigrate? when? If they sailed from a Norwegian port the first clue of "new world" location may be in the record of that sailing.

Note for those of us in US who may not know without looking it up -- Lillestrøm, Skedsmo, Akershus

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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/12/2013 :  15:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some of this was covered in the earlier topic about Emil Jacobson by his grandchild:

http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5568&whichpage=1
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2013 :  16:59:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lisbeth, I see you have posted on the earlier topic initiated by Susan Jacobsen. Have you also tried to send her an e-mail. You can do that by clicking on her Sjacob name in the left hand column of the posts and then clicking on the Click to send an E-Mail link.
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  01:03:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the earlier thread sjacob said Anna was the only sibling who did not go to America.

Edited by - JaneC on 15/12/2013 02:34:44
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Lkristiansen
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  20:11:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, they would be in US. I found out a little bit about Emil, but can't find anything about Arnt Julius, Hilda Marie and Hans.
I sendt sjacob a e-Mail, but I haven't heard from her.
Emil came with boat from Liverpool,England and perhaps his siblings did too? His sister Anna and the parents lived in Lillestrøm,Norway.


Lisbeth

Edited by - Lkristiansen on 15/12/2013 20:14:02
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  20:44:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try this one: Click on this link, then click on Susan user name to find email address.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/norway/messages/17029.html

If the forum undertakes a search for descendants, these siblings will first have to be identified in the USA and for that the forum will use a full birth date and parents' names (both will appear or should appear on a death record and/or possibly other records as well).

As posted in the other thread:
Arnt Julius, born April 30 1887
Hilda Marie, born Sept 29 1889
Hans, born Nov 15 1891
Anna, born Oct 7 1894

Find a Grave memorial to Hans Jacobson (1891-1983)
Burial Pines Cemetery, Spokane, Spokane, Washington, USA
According to Find a Grave his SPOUSE was
Alice Maud LeMaster (1886-1972)
Alice's CHILDREN (might not be a complete list and accuracy not verified by me)
* Gilbert Floyd Morgan (1904 - 1967)
* Fay Jeanette Morgan Dewar (1907 - 1953)
* Gail Harold Peaslee (1912 - 1980)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62007552

Find-a-Grave gives the date of birth for this Hans as Nov. 15, 1891.

This is the same Hans in 1940:

1940 US Census
Spokane, Spokane, Washington
Hans H Jacobson 49 born about 1891 in Norway, naturalized US citizen
Alice M Jacobson 52 b abt 1888 Missouri
Ralph E Jacobso 13 son b abt 1927 Idaho
Ray H Jacobson 12 son b abt 1928 Idaho
Nettie M Lemasters 74 widowed, lodger

Residence in 1935: Rural, Kootenai, Idaho
(I see jkmarler just posted same)

Edited by - JaneC on 15/12/2013 21:46:57
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  21:21:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the marriage record of Hans Jacobson and Alice Peasleein 1937. There are given as residents of Idaho:

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/DigitalObject/ViewAsJpeg?ID=95FA3B6E916DE51CEE9BFD0690FEABFF&ViewAsJpegPage=0

Here they are in 1940 Census, fomer 1935 address Kootenai county Idaho, 2 boys last named Jacobson in household birthdates predate marriage to Alice so indicate possible prior marriage for Hans:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K93V-VTN

This is probably Hans in the WWI draft registration cards database, birthdate given as 5 Nov 1891 but at Lillestrom, Norway; living in Lincoln county Montana:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8QN-G62

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/12/2013 21:57:48
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Lkristiansen
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  22:36:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for helping me!
Anna stayed in Norway,and the parents did too. The parents is
Jacob Jakobsen, born june 1, 1856
Karen Johnsen (Johnsdatter) july 20, 1856
They lived in Lillestrøm, Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway

I not that good in the english language, so it's possible I don't understand all the informasjon you gives me, sorry.

Is it likely that Hans thinks his bithday is the 5th and not the 15th?
I can remember that my grandmother got a visit from Amerika, late 70's, and his name was Ralph. And in the link 1940 cencus I find a son Ralph.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  22:50:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lkristiansen

Is it likely that Hans thinks his bithday is the 5th and not the 15th?
I can remember that my grandmother got a visit from Amerika, late 70's, and his name was Ralph. And in the link 1940 cencus I find a son Ralph.



Yes it's possible that there was an error recording the date as 5 instead of 15. He was a single man, unemployed and an "alien" meaning that he hadn't attempted to become a US citizen. Perhaps his English skills weren't the greatest either.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  23:14:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably Hans and his first wife in 1930 Census

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Hans Jacobsen
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1930: Spirit Lake, Kootenai, Idaho
Map of Home:
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1912
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Hilda K Jacobsen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Members:
Name Age
Hans Jacobsen 37
Hilda K Jacobsen 36
Nels Lundblad 19
Fred Larson 16
Margaret Larson 14
Ralph Jacobsen 3
[3 8/12]
Earl A Jacobsen 2
[2 7/12]
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  23:22:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Family Tree on Ancestry.com has this person as the first wife of Hans Jacobsen.

Hilduh Kristina Josefina Lundblad
Birth 19 May 1894 in Skön, Västernorrland, Sweden
Death 24 NOV 1935 in Kootenai, Idaho

Idaho, Death Index, 1890-1962
Name: Hildur Jacobson
Birth Place: Sweden
Birth Date: 5 May 1894
Death Place: Spirit Lake, Kootenai, Idaho, USA
Death Date: 24 Nov 1935
Father: John Lundblad
Father Birth Place: Sweden
Mother: Ella Tholberg
Mother Birth Place: Finland
Certificate Year: 1935
Certificate Number: 096186
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  23:34:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would appear that Hilda, or Hilduh, or Hildur was also married before she married Hans Jacobsen. Here from 1920 Census. Note children Fred and Margaret and husband Fritz Larsen.

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Hildar Larson
[Hilder Larson]
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Sweden
Home in 1920: Zemple, Itasca, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1912
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Fritz A Larson
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Fritz A Larson 37
Hildar Larson 25
Nels G Larson 9
Fred A Larson 5
Margaret Larson 4
[4 6/12]
Erick M Alquist 37
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  23:39:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans may have served for a short peroid in the US Army.

U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010
Name: Hans Jacobson
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1891
Death Date: 6 Sep 1983
SSN: 518034474
Branch 1: ARMY
Enlistment Date 1: 31 Mar 1918
Release Date 1: 15 Feb 1919
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  23:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Hilda Jacobson at findagrave:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=jacobson&GSfn=hilda&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GSsr=41&GRid=13873595&df=all&

There is a Hans Jacobson at familysearch in the arriving at Eastport Idaho database who came through Halifax Canada to Swift Current, Sask then to Eastport who had a brother named Lars and one named Martin Jacobson in Spokane--not sure who he is exactly, so be wary.

Link to Eastport arrival:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KF6Z-CCC

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/12/2013 23:52:12
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/12/2013 :  23:49:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the arrival of Hans Jacobson into the US through New York. He lists his father as Jacob Jacobson of Lillestrom and his destination as Spirit Lake Idaho.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Hans Jacobsen
Arrival Date: 27 Apr 1913
Birth Date: abt 1891
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: lillestrom
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cameronia

Looking at the orginal manifest more closely, There is a Emil and Dagny Jacobson on the same page but near the bottom.

Edited by - AntonH on 15/12/2013 23:55:41
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