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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 15/01/2014 : 23:30:13
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Brejohns, you wrote. quote:
Some of Borre's relatives do have the last name of Johansen and are buried beside him in the cemetery
Who are these relatives and what are their names. |
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 02:49:38
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lyndal40 - Here is the correct information for the Rendahl Cemetery. There is a huge marker that has "Johansen" on it. Probably erected in 1914 when Borre died. I believe they still went by Johansen until after Borre died. Buried in this family plot of ours is "Borre Johansen" his wife is listed as "Alma Johnson June 9, 1872 - May 5, 1953" and two of their children "Bennie A Johnson 1894-1965" and "Henry Johnson 1898-1952." No one in the family can explain why or how the census would list their last name as Sampson or a version of this. Alma never remarried and there are no other relatives with that name. I will check the family tree you listed on Ancestory.com. Maybe I can see a connection there. I do not have any documents to send you as my records were just a handwritten family tree that ended at Borre Johnson. I do have the same US Census documents as you do which reflect the different names. I've done a bit of research on our other relatives and never had anything this confusing.
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 03:17:29
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I checked out ancestry.com and at this link and the correct Borre is listed as Barrie Johnson. http://trees.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/52329619/family?cfpid=13338388046
However, there is no other additional information on him. This lists his birth date as July 10, 1861 which we are not sure is correct, but his date of death is correct January 27, 1914. In reviewing this family chart I wonder just how correct it is. I can see there are some names misspelled as my husband's grandmother is listed as "Mytle Elvina Johnson" and her first name was "Mrytle." The chart also does not include both of Mrytle's daughters - which were Shirley Mae and Bernice Janet. I know these are small omissions, but I then question the other information. There are no living relatives to check for additional information. Please let me know if there is anywhere else I can check. I do have one other document that appears to be school census or school district information dated June 6, 1900 for Dunseith, ND. Borre's name is spelled Bernoa Jonson with a birthdate of July 1860 and an emigration date of 1887 (I think). Is there anyway to forward you a copy of this document? This is a different emigration date. I have it in a pdf format. Thank you so much. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 03:33:15
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Thank you brejohns, I looked at the Family Tree, owner is named Sarah_Russell23 and for the person listed.
Barrie Johnson
Birth 10 July 1861 in Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Death 27 Jan 1914
Most of the information she has that is sourced comes from the 1900 US Census that I posted on page 1 of this query. Where does the birth date of July 10, 1861 that both you and she have referenced come from. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 05:02:36
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This copied from the North Dakota Public Death Index online:
JOHNSON, BORE 01/27/1914 Rolette MALE 53 Years 07/27/1860 North Dakota Rolette
His birthdate is given as 27 July 1860. |
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brejohns
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 05:05:31
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| My birth date comes from a handwritten family tree. It was listed only as July 1860 and when I checked on Ancestory.com I found it listed on the family tree that Sarah_Russell23 completed as July 10, 1860. The school district document just lists it as July 1860 and the 1900 US census listed under the name "Bernoa Jonson (Bore Johnson)" just lists it as July 1860. I'm not sure where she found July 10. Is there any way to contact her? |
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brejohns
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 05:10:04
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| Borre's birth date could very well be July 27 instead of July 10. I wonder how accurate the ND Public Index is? Does this match any Norwegian birth records? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 05:32:04
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Originally posted by brejohns
Borre's birth date could very well be July 27 instead of July 10. I wonder how accurate the ND Public Index is? Does this match any Norwegian birth records?
Well, the death index is a transcribed record and there is another possibility of error because of that. The actual death certificate is probably handwritten and may be subject to interpretation--another possibility of error. But the death certs are cheap in ND about $5 and it my contain his parents' names or his birth place--might be worth a roll of the dice. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 13:58:38
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Ancestory.com I found it listed on the family tree that Sarah_Russell23 .... Is there any way to contact her?
You would need to use Ancestry.com to learn if you can get more info to be able to contact 'Sarah_Russell23'
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Borre's birth date could very well be July 27 instead of July 10. I wonder how accurate the ND Public Index is? Does this match any Norwegian birth records?
There was/is no nationwide index of births in Norway. You need to know WHERE in Norway you want to search. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 16:33:52
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Your Borre is mentioned or pictured in this book, page 251:
Johnson Borre 1914 Prairie Past and Mountain Memories A History of Dunseith, N.Dak., 1882-1982. F644.D9 P83 251 ill. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 17:18:10
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Could be two of the other children leaving Oslo Christian born in 1853 and Bernt born in 1858. No sign of any Borre.
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Here's why #24:
Source information: Oppland county, Fåberg, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1868-1878), Death and burial records 1874, page 465.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8937&idx_id=8937&uid=ny&idx_side=-395
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/01/2014 : 17:39:16
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| Thanks Jackie, Also why he is not found in the 1875 Census with his family and why I could not find him in the Emigrants list. Back to square one. |
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jkmarler
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