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 Carrie Jorgensen, Sept 1879, Sogn
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JaneC
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Posted - 16/01/2014 :  17:32:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha

As you go along you'll find many possibilities for further research in various directions. Some links, below - just a few of many resources available.

Here's a map of Sogn og Fjordane. In Sogndal I can see Stedje subparish (?) and farm Bjelle; and Leirim; I don't see Reseland. If you are interested Debra maybe someone can help?
http://www.fylkesatlas.no/default.aspx?gui=1&lang=3

Syttende Mai celebration in Stoughton:
http://www.uwfolk.org/uffda-stoughton-norwegian-dancers/case-study-syttende-mai/

Sons of Norway
http://www.sonsofnorway5.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73:stoughton-wisconsin&catid=7:-lodge-histories

"In 1993...Mandt Lodge joins with other lodges to mark the 150th Anniversary of the immigration from Sogndal, Dane County’s sister country in Norway, at the Dane County Expo center."

Early Norwegian Lutheran churches in Stoughton (check records):
http://www.stoughtonlandmarks.com/eastside.html

Check the street addresses on the US census records for Carrie and for the family members to see where they lived in relationship to each other:
http://www.stoughtonlandmarks.com/map.html

Stoughton was "one of the most Norwegian towns in the country." NOTE: Usually people who live in Pasadena are very very jealous of that.
http://www.stoughtonlandmarks.com/html/local_history.html

Sogn og Fjordane genealogy resources:
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/sogn_og_fjordane.html

Edited by - JaneC on 16/01/2014 20:22:21
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/01/2014 :  19:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bjelde/Bjelle exist as Bjella.
Reseland seems to have "vanished" due to expansion.

Enter this map and write;
Bjella, Sogndal, click SØK and enter Bjella, Sogndal (bruk(gardsbruk)) and watch the farm .
It looks like the farm do not exist, there are two dwellings and two garages there.

Bjellastølen (seter) that appears in the map was a summer pasture under Bjella where the girls from Bjella lived during the summetime looking after the livestock and made butter and cheese.
The use of Bjellastølen ended 1958 and is now most likely used for vaccation.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 16/01/2014 19:51:40
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JaneC
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Posted - 16/01/2014 :  20:13:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kåre. A beautiful place.
Much has changed over the years.
http://www.sogndal.kommune.no/old-time-sogndal.178051.nn.html
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DKeighley
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Posted - 16/01/2014 :  20:14:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JaneC - Those are fabulous links! Unfortunately, as much as I would LOVE to check them all out, page by page, line by line, I think I may have to get some actual work done today. When I've checked my personal email from my office the past few days, there seems to be another clue left for me and I (of course) couldn't possibly leave them until I get home tonight -- I have to check them out now!! Very funny about Pasadena. We live in Chatsworth in the San Fernando Valley, about 35 miles away. I'd say about 30 min by car, but this is Los Angeles...anything more than about 5 miles away is going to be at least 30 minutes by car; I'd estimate that, in traffic, it's close to a 90 minute drive. I work a mere 12 miles from home; my commute is 60 to 90 minutes (or more) each day.

Kåre: "Minnesota became the 32. state on Mai 11. 1858 and was originally settled by a lost tribe of Norwegians seeking refuge from the searing heat of Wisconsin`s winters." That's very funny!! Similar to the Mark Twain quote, "The coldest winter I spent was a summer in San Francisco".

Being born & raised in Los Angeles, I don't have very much exposure to the cold. The 2 years I spent in Liverpool were the coldest I'd ever been in my life. I spent most of my days wearing jeans with 2 pair of thermal pants underneath; a long sleeved thermal shirt under a t-shirt under a sweater under a bit wool coat; three pair of gloves; three pair of socks under my boots and a big furry hat -- the kind with the flaps -- to keep my ears warm...and I was STILL cold. I'd never seen falling snow, so that was an amazing experience. Our weather is one of those things that we native Angelenos take for granted.






Debra Keighley
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/01/2014 :  23:43:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good laugh prolongs life

There are probably many who could wish for California in the wintertime, but you get used to cold and snow.
We say there is no bad weather but bad clothes.

Spring in Norway is green and beautiful when nature restart.

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/01/2014 :  00:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Jørgen Einarsen was from farm Næs in Hafslo
His father was Einar Jørgensen.

Kåre



Einar/Einer Jørgensen was servant on Næss 1801

He was born in Hafslo 1778, bapt. Dominica Circumsisionis, Lathin for Jan. 1. 1779.
Father was Jørgen Nielsen.
Not easy to find and read, two left sections in right page, first bap. 1779, Jørgen Nilsens Søn (Son) Einer.
Click here

I will try to look for his wife Kari Iversdatter tomorrow.

Time to blow the candle in Norway.

Kåre

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DKeighley
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Posted - 17/01/2014 :  01:19:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another moment of being overcome with emotion, because....

I FOUND THEM!!!!

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passengers-quebec-1865-1900/001082-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=539690&page_sequence_nbr=1&interval=20&PHPSESSID=tkf445idkppd90bp8rmspgn3b4

Wouldn't have been without your help.

I can see the names as Ole J and the last name spelled Ressland. Next is Unni N. Bjelde; Peder Espesæter; Kari O., Jorgen, and Anna Ressland. Next on the list is Ole J Espesæter and his wife is listed as Anna Pedersdatter..

There are 2 more names going to Stoughton in that group. I can see "Johannes", but I can't read the last name, and the next name is Torsten, I believe.

Line 576 is another person going to Stoughton, And it looks like it says Nils, but I am unable to make it out.






Debra Keighley
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JaneC
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Posted - 17/01/2014 :  04:59:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOO HOO!!! Yippee Debra!

Looking at the register of people departing from Bergen that April day in 1886, and comparing it to the ship's manifest you found, I'd say these could be the names you point out (the names and ages below are as they appear in the transcribed Bergen record):

all going to Stoughton, Wisconsin:
Ole Jørgensen Riseland 28
Unni Nilsdatter Bjelde 34
Kari Olsdatter Riseland 7
Jørgen Olsen Riseland 4
Anna Olsdatter Riselund 3
Peder Ludvigsen Espesæter 11
Ole Johannessen Bjelde 28
Anne Pedersdatter Bjelde 60 <------- Ole's mother, not wife

Johannes Asbjørnsen Øvrethun 18
Tosten Asbjørnsen Øvrethun 19

Going to Wisconsin (McFarland?)
Lars Andersen Bergsnæs 20 going to Mcfarland??? Wisconsin
Peder Pedersen Bergsnæs 18 ditto

going to Stoughton:
Elling Ellingsen Flugem? 22
Lars Olsen Kvale 17
Nils Olsen Seierstad 16

Congratulations - a very good finding!

Edited by - JaneC on 17/01/2014 05:01:02
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Kåarto
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Posted - 17/01/2014 :  11:31:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DKeighley

Another moment of being overcome with emotion, because....

I FOUND THEM!!!!



Jippiiiiiii

Kåre
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