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cmtodd
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 Posted - 08/02/2014 : 17:52:40
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Thank you, jkmarler. I didn't know that. Makes it easier to know what to order.
From the FHL file data looks like there are separate registers for Nordli & Sørli from 1817 - 1864, then there is only one register between 1865-1881, and then the Nordli & Sørli registers are separate again after that. The register for 1865-1881 covers the period of interest. Thanks! |
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 19/04/2014 : 19:50:29
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I am following up on a previous post by Kåre on 30/01/2014:
Ole Torkildsen Stustad age 20 left Lier 1872, see right page #2
He was heading towards Hegra, dest. was Støren
I am having difficulty reading the handwriting for the last column of this entry which indicates where Ole is headed. Given Kåre's post, I'm guessing it reads "Støren [Trondhjem?] [???] 29/1 74.
I would appreciate knowing what the Norwegian words are. Also, am I right in assuming that the date refers to when the entry was made in the parish register?
Thank you so much!
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/04/2014 : 20:10:24
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He had gone to "Størens Præstegjeld" (Støren parish) in 1872.
Attestation (for birth and baptism) dated Jan 29 1874 were given for this purpose.
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 19/04/2014 : 23:26:48
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Thank you, Einar. I never would have guessed the second word.
I am not sure I understand the reference to birth and baptism in your statement "Attestation (for birth and baptism) dated Jan 29 1874 were given for this purpose." Did he go to Støren parish in 1872 to attend (or be a godparent) at a birth/baptism? If so, would this have been just a visit to Støren rather than a move there? Was 29 Jan 1874 the date the parish was told about this visit?
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 19/05/2014 : 17:10:57
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I am trying to resolve a name issue for Ole Torkildson's mother, Marte Haraldsdatter. In some genealogies she is listed as Marte Haraldsdatter Sandbakken. I believe this may come from the parish record for Ole's birth in Asker. There is a Sandbækken farm in Asker. (see here #216
In a previous post Kåre put a link to Marte's birth record in Lier, Buskerud County and indicated she was born on farm Sjåstadeie (see here #64
Two questions:
1) Could the "Sandbakken" entry after Marte's name on Ole's parish birth record actually indicate that Ole was born on Sandbakken farm?
2) In Marte's parish birth record it looks like she was baptised in Frogner church. I haven't been able to find a farm in Frogner named Sjåstadeie. I have found two fairly close farm names: Skjaastad and Sjåstad. Could either of those be the name of the farm Marte was born on? The handwriting is difficult to read!
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/05/2014 : 20:59:30
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| Eie is a suffix to the farm name indicating that the person was an employee of the farm and probably living in the cotter's place on that farm. |
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 19/05/2014 : 23:36:55
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Thank you, jkmarler! There is so much to learn about the farm names.
Just realized I had the wrong link for the question about the farm name Sandbakken. The correct link is here, entry 216 |
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 31/05/2015 : 23:22:18
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Others interested in the Ole Torkildson family may be interested to know that I finally found a death record for the first Gunhilda Kristine (born 3 Sept 1879 in Meráker). The Minnesota Historical Society in St. Paul, Minnesota has microfiche of the American Lutheran Church Ministerial Records for the Minneola Lutheran Church (Goodhue, Minnesota) from 1868-1908. The following handwritten entry appeared in the "Jordfeste" section for 1880 (faint so a bit hard to read):
Ole Torkildsens [possibly Torkeldsens] Barn, Gunhild Christine - d. 29 Mai ff 5 Sept.
There were two other funerals also conducted on 5 September, probably by a traveling minister. Minneola Lutheran was a daughter church in the Holden Parish and, although it had become an independent church by 1880, funerals may still have been conducted by the Holden Church pastor, Rev. B. J. Muus, who served from 1859-1899. During his tenure he conducted 9877 baptisms, 5288 confirmations, 1268 marriages and 3909 funerals! [according to the Holden Lutheran Church website: http://holdenlutheranchurch.org].
The funeral entry does not specifically mention that Gunhilda died in Goodhue, although it appears possible. The family arrived in Quebec on 12 May 1880. It appears there were canals and a series of railroads at that time connecting Quebec and Red Wing, Minnesota which is not far from Goodhue. Minneola Lutheran Church (which still is in existence) has no record confirming that Gunhilda is buried in their cemetery. The church secretary indicated that there are several old unmarked graves, however, one of which could be hers.
How sad that one of the first things the family did in their new county was to bury their youngest child. Gunhilda's maternal grandparents, Gunhild Arnstdtr Gederaas and Kristoffer Jensen Romo, also are buried in the Minneola church cemetery and two members of our family still live nearby. So little Gunhilda probably rests with family and still has family today who will remember her. Many, many thanks for all your help in keeping her story alive. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/06/2015 : 00:54:27
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Gunhild and Kristoffer also had a sad event in Norway.
Nov. 30. 1864 they got twins, born on Gederaas, a girl named Gurina and a son Gunerius.
Gurina died same day she was born and was "Hjemmedøbt" bapt. at home and buried Dec. 16.
Gunerius died Feb. 2. 1865 9 weeks old, see #35 & 7
Kristoffer Jensen and Gunhild Arntsdatter married in Hegra June 2. 1846
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Edited by - Kåarto on 01/06/2015 01:03:09 |
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 01/06/2015 : 22:21:30
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| Thank you, Kåre. I knew the family had two sets of twins (this was the second set) but not that both members of the second set had died so young. I just found that one of the first set of twin girls (also named Gurina) was born on 29 Sep 1860 and died on 7 Jul 1861. So Kristoffer and Gunhild lost three children in a very short time. I'm sure it was a help to Ole and especially to Elen to be with Elen's parents as they grieved the loss of little Gunhilda. It must have brought back sad memories, however, for Kristoffer and Gunhild. |
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 02/06/2015 : 04:03:29
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The first member of Kristoffer Jensen's family to emigrate to N. Amerika appears to be daughter Beret (b. 22 July 1849 in Hegra) in 1865 per the 1900 US Census. She marries Iver Rolfseng Iverson on 30 Oct 1868 in Wannamingo, Goodhue County, Minnesota. I have not been able to find church or police emigration records or her name on passenger lists so far.
Kristoffer Jensen (b. 13 Aug 1827) and the following family members appear on the Hegra parish emigration record for 21 Feb 1874, but I haven't found a police emigration record or their names on passenger lists:
Gunhild Arntsdtr (b. 8 Apr 1829)
Jens Kristoffersen Gederas (b. 15 Jul 1846)
Randi Oldsdtr (his wife)
Kristoffer (his son)
Kjerstin Oline (Kristoffer's d.)
Caroline (Kristoffer's d.)
Karl Gustav (Kristoffer's d.)
Probably also Peter Kristoffersen (Kirstoffer's son), who may be the missing #5 on the list.
I would appreciate any information documenting the emigration of Beret and the Kristoffer Jensen family. Thanks! |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2015 : 14:45:11
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Hi
They dep. Trondheim Feb. 24. 1874 on Steamship Leif via England, dest Redving link
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2015 : 15:02:16
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Have you seen this Norwegian family tree
Født means born
Død means dead
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cmtodd
Junior member
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Posted - 02/06/2015 : 16:22:40
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That's the family! Thank you Kåre. I need to work harder on my searching skills. I fear I don't think to abbreviate names as much as I should. I don't see Kjersten Oline Kristoffersdtr or Peder Kristofferson in this group. The parish emigration record does show Kjersten leaving with the family. Peder isn't listed on the parish record but there is a missing #5 and the US Census documents say he immigrated in 1974 as well. Perhaps they are elsewhere on the list. I'll try searching for them.
I had not seen the Norwegian family tree! It is most helpful. I have a bygdebog that has a lot on this family line. I have just started going through it and have found a number of errors already, based on my search of church records. It will be interesting to see how the bydgebog compares with this family tree. Thank you so much!
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/06/2015 : 17:42:19
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Kjerstin (Kristine) sister-in-Law b. Feb. 14.1859 and Iver Einarsen brother-in -Law b. Jan. 8. 1863 (on farm Hastad in Hegra) on the same ship and same dest. link
Both rec. in the em. protocol for Hegra leaving in the same group with Kristoffer Jensen feb. 21. see right page #7&10
Peder born when and lastname?
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