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BjørnAasheim
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  16:57:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

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Originally posted by BjørnAasheim

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Originally posted by peder

Birth age would be 1883 Syver arrived NY oct 30 1903 its possible this could be him??/
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Oslo 13996 1903 Okt. 16 Syver Nilsen Veiavold m u Arbeider 20 Lom N.dakota 6558 Norge Prp Montebe
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=21&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=147607&merk=147607#ovre


Sorry, but do not think this is the same Syver Nilsen, because the manifest/alien passenger list of "Cedric" that he sailed with from Liverpool - sailed 21. 0ct 1903 and arrived in N.Y. Oct 30.1903.



The link Peder posted is for the police list at Oslo. Syver would have been on a "feeder" ship to England, then left on a much larger transAtlantic vessel after. Timewise the Syver Peder found does work.


Syver Nilsen, have according to my knowledge, not any origin (bustad) to Lom, hence I do not think he is the same person.


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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  17:00:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trying to pursue this through Gol records....

#44 Nils b. 21 June 1846
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol in Gol, Parish register copy nr. I 1 (1841-1860), Birth and baptism records 1846, page 29-30.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8543&idx_id=8543&uid=ny&idx_side=-16
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peder
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  17:05:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWMZ-C4Q
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  17:07:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nils Olsen & Sigrid Nilsdatter wedding #18:
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol in Gol, Parish register copy nr. I 1 (1841-1860), Marriage records 1843, page 123-124.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8543&idx_id=8543&uid=ny&idx_side=-63

Sigri Nilsdtr nørdre Eikle 1816-1878 and Nils Olson Breidokk 1820-1911 d on Bjørklund Sigri's and Nils' family are on page 434 of Boka om Gol (Herad) III, under Brenn.
Sigri was the widow of Ola Halvorson øvre Turkop 1816-1841 with whom she had 3 children. With Nils she had 8 children
1.Ola Nilson, nord Strand N. Aurdal 1844-1932 m 1876 Kari Knutsdtr Kvåle from V. Slidre, 1 daughter

2. Nils Nilson, Fodnes N Aurdal 1846-1932 m 1874 Mari Olsdtr Kulterstad N. Aurdal 1846-1917 5 children

3. Margit Nilsdtr 1848-1899 m 1875 Ola Andreson Snortheim V. Slidre, at least 3 children

4. Knut Nilson 1850- ; died in America m Gjartru Fodnes

5. Endre Nilson nord Strand, N. Aurdal 1853 d. 1944 m 1885 Berte Bosheim, N. Aurdal 1853-1931 7 children

6. Kari Nilsdrt 1855 d. 1950 m Helge Åkervoll, N Aurdal 1857-1922; to America both are buried in Minneapolis, Minnesota

7. Marit Nilsdtr 1858 d. 1914 m ______ Strandli

8. Vilhelm Nilson Bjørklund, N. Aurdal 1861-1943 m 1899 Guri Syversdtr Bøen Reinli 1862-1949

(source for the folks in Valdres is Halstein Strand, Ulnes.
In 1856 Nils sold Fanterud and moved to Nord Strand, Ulnes, N. Aurdal.

Looks like from this family the only possible Syverson uncle would be the aunt Guri Syversdtr if she had a brother named Syver. Syverson off the table not correct Syver Nilsen.

Edited by - jkmarler on 02/02/2014 19:31:30
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BjørnAasheim
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  17:09:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

Trying to pursue this through Gol records....

#44 Nils b. 21 June 1846
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol in Gol, Parish register copy nr. I 1 (1841-1860), Birth and baptism records 1846, page 29-30.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8543&idx_id=8543&uid=ny&idx_side=-16


Yes, this is as I see it, correct person.

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BjørnAasheim
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  17:12:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

Nils Nilsen & Sigrid Nilsdatter wedding #18:
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol in Gol, Parish register copy nr. I 1 (1841-1860), Marriage records 1843, page 123-124.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8543&idx_id=8543&uid=ny&idx_side=-63


This mas new information to me, thank you!

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BjørnAasheim
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  17:17:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by peder

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWMZ-C4Q


Thank you Peder, your kind assistance highly appreciated!
Looking forward to further good news!

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AntonH
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:11:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Syver Nilsen, have according to my knowledge, not any origin (bustad) to Lom, hence I do not think he is the same person.


I wonder if there are not two Syver Nilsons, One from Lom and one from Nord-Aurdal. Bjørn, I am beginning to think that the Syver Nilsen you found is perhaps not your relative but a different Syver Nilsen born in Lom. Peder has traced him to his destination in North Dakota. Something does not seem correct here.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:21:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Syver Nils. Fadnes from N. Aurdal going to America in 1905:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=emikra1&personpostnr=150471&merk=150471
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie, I think you got it. The Syver Nilsen leaving in 1903 was from Lom, That is what it shows on the orginal manifest for the Cedric and what it shows on the record found by Peder on Digitalarkivet. The Lom Syver Nilsen was going to his relative in North Dakota, Probably the son of Paul Seversen. Here is some info from a Family Tree on Ancestry.com.

Paul Severson
Birth 17 Mar 1854 in Steintereign Lom, Oppland Co., Norway
Death 1932 in Petersburg, Nelson Co., North Dakota, U.S.A.

Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2014 18:30:19
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe him arriving in Canada. Going to friend Ing, Rye? In Minnesota.

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Syver N Fodnas
Arrival Date: 13 Mar 1905
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Ship Name: Ionian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Place: Ikranburg
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1884
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 15

Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2014 18:38:26
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:40:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where is Syvert? The rest of the family on Fodnes in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=f00542&gardpostnr=563&personpostnr=3245&merk=3245#ovre

Here is family in 1910:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036453002892

Edited by - jkmarler on 02/02/2014 18:57:28
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BjørnAasheim
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:49:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lyndal40

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Syver Nilsen, have according to my knowledge, not any origin (bustad) to Lom, hence I do not think he is the same person.


I wonder if there are not two Syver Nilsons, One from Lom and one from Nord-Aurdal. Bjørn, I am beginning to think that the Syver Nilsen you found is perhaps not your relative but a different Syver Nilsen born in Lom. Peder has traced him to his destination in North Dakota. Something does not seem correct here.


Must recheck item 2. mentioned by jkmarler earlier today cause Nils Nilsen, Fodnes N Aurdal 1846-1932 seem to m 1874 Mari Olsdtr Kulterstad N. Aurdal 1846-1917 and they had 5 children. My mother told me long time ago that we were related to the family Kulturstad (or Kulterstad). Could it be so that my great grandfather Nils Nilsen was married to Mari Olsdtr Kulterstad or KultUrstad and not Maria Olsdatter? It seems to be so.
And then it could well be two different "Syver" that went to America.
I am so glad I contacted Norway-Heritage, and I appreciiate very much that all of you do all this great work for me!




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AntonH
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:50:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a candidate. This is the birth date listed on the record that Peder found

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Name: Sigurd Fodness
SSN: 473-42-8203
Last Residence: 56264 Minneota, Lyon, Minnesota, USA
Born: 2 May 1884
Died: Nov 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota (1956)

Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2014 19:08:51
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  18:53:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the same guy.

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Sigurd Fodnes
Age in 1910: 25
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Roomer
Marital status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Knute Swennes 47
Marie Swennes 29
Knute Swennes Jr 5
Odin Swennes 3
Sigurd Fodnes 25
Sina Helgeson 32
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