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Leewarfield
Starting member
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 Posted - 02/02/2014 : 02:08:13
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| Trying to find information about Ellen Olson (my GG-Grandmother). Born August 27, 1857 in Norway. She married (unknown date) Carl Wilhelm Murner who was born in Sweden in 1849. They lived in South Dakota (USA) where she died in 1902/1903. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 02:35:34
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Hi. Just to start, your great-grandmother is buried in Graceland cemetery in Mitchell, Davison County, South Dakota, USA - is that right? If her death was registered, the death record might tell her parents' names.
Her tombstone is inscribed
Ele Murner
wife of Carl Murner (1849-1929)
Born Aug. 27, 1857
Died May 24, 1902
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=110319211&PIpi=84651122
Do you have any sources for her date of immigration? The 1900 US census should list a date of immigration.
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Edited by - JaneC on 02/02/2014 03:06:47 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:30:06
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I suspect that this is her in the 1900 US Census. Sons William and Hjalmar were born in Wisconsin.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Ellen Mourner
[Ell?? Monroe]
Age: 43
Birth Date: Aug 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Lisbon, Davison, South Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse's Name: Carl Mourner
Marriage Year: 1875
Years Married: 25
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Carl Mourner 57
Ellen Mourner 43
William Mourner 24
Hjalmer Mourner 13 |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2014 03:33:15 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:45:36
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Social Security Death Index for Ole William.
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Name: Ole Murner
SSN: 504-30-3587
Last Residence: South Dakota
Born: 28 Jan 1876
Died: May 1965
State (Year) SSN issued: South Dakota (Before 1951) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:54:23
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Here are their homestead records:
Image Accession NamesSorted Ascending Date Doc # State Meridian Twp - Rng Aliquots Sec. # County
--- SDMTAA 128211 Patentee MURNER, CARL 5/11/1900 12026 SD 5th PM 102N - 061W N½S½ 12 Davison
View Patent Image 42172 Patentee MURNER, EDWIN H 1/21/1909 0807 SD Black Hills 003S - 028E NW¼ 8 Jones
View Patent Image MV-0795-372 Patentee MURNER, OLE W 6/25/1908 5542 SD Black Hills 003S - 028E NW¼ 9 Jones
--- SDMTAA 021201 Patentee MURNER, OLE W 6/25/1908 5542 SD Black Hills 003S - 028E NW¼ 9 Jones
Similar to the way William was revealed to be Ole William, wonder if Edward H Murner might be Edwin Hjalmer Murner? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 02/02/2014 03:55:31 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:55:13
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Probably the other son Hjalmar.
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Edwin Hjalmar Murner
County: Mower
State: Minnesota
Birthplace: Wisconsin,United States of America
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1887
Race: Caucasian (White) |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 03:57:36
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Probably Carl Emmigration from Sweden.
Göteborg, Sverige, passagerarlistor, 1869 - 1951
Name: Carl Morner
Departure Date: 14 feb 1873
Ship Name: Pacific
Birth Date: abt 1850
Birth Place: Stockholm
Age: 23
Destination: Hull, England |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 04:00:38
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from "Mörner af Morlanda" website
In this genealogy his name is styled as "Carl Mörner af Morlanda"
"Carl Vilhelm Stellan Hjalmar [Mörner af Morlanda] (översiktstab 10, son av Bror Vilhelm, tab 27), född 1849-02-18 Edesta. Överflyttade till Nordamerika. Död 1929-07-26 i Austin, Minn. Gift 1875-03-28 i Amerika med Ellie Olsen från Norge, född 1856 i Kristiania, död 1903-05-24 i Mitchell, Södra Dakota.
Barn:
Ole Vilhelm, född 1876. Farmare. Ole Vilhelm (William) (son av Carl Vilhelm Stellan Hjalmar), född 1876 i Monroe, Wisc. Farmare i Murdo, South Dakota, USA. Gift 1900 med Hilda Torina Jorgenson, född 1872-10-23. Död 1950.
Anna Sofia, född 1878-11-22 i Monroe, Wisc. Gift 1897 med järnvägstjänstemannen i Austin, Minn., Warren (Wahren) Warfield, född 1877-04-17 i Vernon, Wisc. USA.
Edvin Hjalmar Murner, född 1886-06-29 i Monroe, Wisc. Farmare i Austin. Järnvägstjm. i Austin, Minn., USA. Gift 1915 med Carrie Braaten, född 1877 i Austin, Minn., USA.
http://www.adelsvapen.com/genealogi/M%C3%B6rner_af_Morlanda_nr_60 |
Edited by - JaneC on 02/02/2014 05:21:02 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 04:05:16
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Probably them in 1880 Census.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Ellie Mumer
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Cadiz, Green, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse's Name: Carl Mumer
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Occupation: Keeping House
Household Members:
Name Age
Carl Mumer 31
Ellie Mumer 23
William Mumer 4
Anna Mumer 1 |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2014 04:06:43 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 04:14:53
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Perhaps the father of Carl? On the same Census page.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Stellan Mumer
Age: 51
Birth Year: abt 1829
Birthplace: Sweden
Home in 1880: Cadiz, Green, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden
Neighbors:
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
Name Age
Stellan Mumer 51 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 04:59:33
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Here is the Minnesota Death Index for Edwin Murner:
MURNER, EDWIN HJALMER
Date of Birth: 29 Jun 1886
Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE
Mother Maiden Name: OLSON
certid# 1980-MN-003837
Date of Death: 16 Feb 1980
County of Death: MOWER
Carl Murner also died in Mower county |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 12:08:36
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From the ELCA database, baptism of Ole Wilhelm Murner in Jordan Lutheran in Green County, Wisconsin, pg 50, #14:
Ole Wilhelm Murner
father Carl Murner
mother Ele Olsdatter
b. 28 Jan 1876 bapt 11June 1876
faddernes: Syver Christiansen, Berthe Olsen, Mathea Olsen, Oline Olsen
Olson would be a common surname but it is possible that there is some family connection.
Possibly interesting folk from Green county:
There are a Sever and Matia Christiansen (she aged 35 born Norway) in the 1880 census of Green county, Wisconsin:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=ft21001880wisc&gardpostnr=36019&merk=36019#ovre
At findagrave in Green county, Wisconsin in Old York Lutheran cemetery there is an Ole Olson b. 19 Aug 1819 Norway d. 23 Mar 1893 and his (calculated0 wife Inger Olson 1811-1900.
Ole and Inger in the 1880 census, Moscow, Iowa county, Wisc.:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=ft21001880wisc&gardpostnr=37898&merk=37898#ovre
Here is a transcription of the Inger Olson from findagrave found in familysearch:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XLFG-D35
They are not the correct family. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/02/2014 18:56:29 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 14:20:22
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From ELCA database, church not clearly identified these congregations are listed: Hauge Lutheran, Primrose Lutheran, Norwegian Evangelical Lutheran, York Lutheran --all identified as in Dane County, Wisc; no
page number but labelled at top of page ad 1878-1879, baptisms #493 Berent (or Barent) & #494 Lina born 21 Jan bapt 7 March parents: Syver Christiansen and Mathia Olsdatter; faddernes: Anne Tidemansdtr, Anne Monsdtr, Oline Olsdtr, Karen Larsdtr, G.H. Johnson, Knud Olsen, Lars Olsen, Syver Olsen.
Other children in that same record book:
#406 Carel Olaff b.5 March (probably 1875) bapt 18 April
parents Syver Christiansen & Mathia Olsdr
faddernes: Anne Tidemansdr, Sophie Christophersdr, Johannes Johnsen, Carl Wilhelm Møller
#454 Alberth b. 20 April (page labelled 1878-790 bapt 20 May
parents Syver Christiansen & Mathea Olsdr
faddernes: Anne Tidemansdr, Oline Olsdtr, Johannes K. Hansen, Andreas Olsen
no page #, no ordinal #
Bertine b. 3 Oct 1882 bapt 22 Nov 1882
parents Syver Christiansen & Marthe
faddernes: Anne Monsdr, Marie Andersdr, Ole Olesen, Syver Olesen
Marriage identified from the same congregations, no page #,
marriage #10 Oline Olsdatter age 30 to Peder Andersen age 37
21 June 1880
bride's parents: Ole Olsen, Anne Olsdr
groom's parents: Anders Johanneson, Marit Knudsdr
witnesses: Gulbrand Knudsen, Syver Christiansen
groom's occupation: farmer
marriage celebrated: Town of York
residence: Town of York
Hoping that Eli would turn up as faddernes for some of the kids but no luck with this group, although Carl Wilhelm Møller is a bit intriguing....
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Edited by - jkmarler on 02/02/2014 15:47:39 |
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Leewarfield
Starting member
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 20:48:20
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Everyone, thank you so much for all the information so far. I have been to their graves in SD along with my Warfield family burial plot. Looks like I have a lot to filter through and translate to English. I do have the family history on Carl Murner back to the 1600's which will also need to be translated.
Please, would like to continue to receive any added Olson information especially Pre-immigration. |
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Ellen Olson
