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haraldlonning
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Posted - 02/02/2014 :  23:10:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Need help to find the Social Security death index about my uncle Haakon Johansen.
His last adress: 38 West Park Avn., Long Beach, Nassau, N.Y.
His wife Olivette Johansen ( Dupile) moved after his death to Boynton Beach, Palm Beach,
Florida. She died 5. Apr 1983. I have her Social Security Death index.


Her is links from my Anchestry family tree:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/41945317/person/19700772061

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1940usfedcen&h=10425948&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t41945317_p19700772061_kpidz0q3d19700772061z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid


U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Olivette Johansen
Name: Olivette Johansen
SSN: 078-05-7641
Last Residence: 33435  Boynton Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, USA
Born: 4 Jul 1903
Died: Apr 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

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JaneC
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  06:22:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haakon Peder Johan Johansen

1940 US Census
Long Beach, Nassau, New York
38 West Park Avenue
Haakon Johansen 36 born Norway
Olivette Johansen 36

Did he die in 1972?

Try searching the Ancestry.com database for Social Security deaths only (rather than a general search) and use wildcard * to make up for misspellings. Maybe that will help.
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haraldlonning
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  08:00:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

Haakon Peder Johan Johansen

1940 US Census
Long Beach, Nassau, New York
38 West Park Avenue
Haakon Johansen 36 born Norway
Olivette Johansen 36

Did he die in 1972?

Try searching the Ancestry.com database for Social Security deaths only (rather than a general search) and use wildcard * to make up for misspellings. Maybe that will help.



I'llmtryntja.

Ok.,I'll try that again. I Think he died ab. 1970. Thanks
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  08:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
some starting info



Haakon johansen 1903
1940 United States Federal Census 1940s View Image
Name: Haakon Johansen
Spouse: Olivette Johansen
Birth: abt 1904 - Norway
Residence: 1935 - Long Beach, Nassau, New York
Residence: Long Beach, Nassau, New York

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQYQ-JFV
Name: Haalson Johansen
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Long Beach, Long Beach City, Nassau, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Year (Estimated): 1904
Last Place of Residence: Same House
District: 30-207
Family Number: 273
Sheet Number and Letter: 11A
Line Number: 1
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 2690
Digital Folder Number: 005458662

Image Number: 00639
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Haalson Johansen M 36 Norway
Wife Olivette Johansen
F 36 Canada

Given Name: Haakon
Middle Name:
Surname: Johansen
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 13 June 1905
Social Security Number: 054-05-8886
State: New York
Last Place of Residence: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Previous Residence Postal Code: 11201
Event Date: February 1972
Age: 67

http://www.mundia.com/no/Person/41945317/19700772061

1865 census with Haakon’s father (johna Ludvig Pdersen( 1865-1909) and grandparents
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1840&kenr=001&bnr=0060&lnr=00


Hakkons birth July 29 1903 #53
Source information: Nordland county, Saltdal, Parish register copy nr. 847C10 (1889-1907), Birth and baptism records 1903, page 98.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2851&idx_id=2851&uid=ny&idx_side=-103

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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  10:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1900 http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=1840&kenr=002&bnr=0090&lnr=00


1910
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036918000506

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JaneC
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  14:50:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wondered about your birth date for Haakon, Harold, but peder has proved Hakkon's birth 29 July 1903 to be correct (thank you peder). Are you seeking Haakon's death date and death place? If you don't know it, then perhaps it's worth ordering the death certificate for the Haakon who died February 1972 (as peder posted)? Doesn't seem likely, though, that an SSDI birth date would be wrong, so that's puzzling.

Edited by - JaneC on 03/02/2014 15:03:06
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  15:26:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just trying to help Harald.
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  15:44:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries View Image
Name: Marie Olivette Dupile
Birth: year - city, Québec (Quebe

Marie olivette dupile

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1316490&id=I61708646

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=:1316490&id=I61708646
family tree Olivette Dupile
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  16:25:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
info aboutQuebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries View Image
Name: Marie Olivette Dupile
Birth: year - city, Québec (Quebe

Marie olivette dupile

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1316490&id=I61708646

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=:1316490&id=I61708646
family tree Olivette Dupile


View Record
Marie Olivette Dupile event
info
location
info


From ancestry want to know her birth date…
http://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=drouinvitals&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsln=dupile&msbdy=1903&dbOnly=_C000000F|_C000000F_x&dbOnly=_F0006C09|_F0006C09_x&uidh=000

New York, New York, Marriage Indexes 1866-1937 Marriage & Divorce Name: Haakon Johansen
Spouse: Olivette Dupill
Marriage: 13 Sep 1933 - Manhattan



All Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 results for Ella Dupile

Marie had 2 sisters Ella Dupile 1905 and Anita Dupile 1909

Maine, Marriages, 1892-1996 Marriage & Divorce
Name: Leo Michaud
Spouse: Ella Dupil
Marriage: date - Maine, USA

Residence: city, ME

Residence: city, ME



Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Marriage & Divorce View Image
Name: Martha Anita Dupil
Birth: year - city, Québec (Quebec)

? birth date for Martha Anita Dupil

Olivette and family

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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  16:30:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm I just plugged in Haakon Johansen at genealogybank.com and found two obituaries for Haakon A Johansen d 1964 and Haakon E. Johansen d. 1969 neither of whom appear in SSDI.

When SSDI first started being available, one of the caveats was that a person must also have received the death benefit or that the benefit had been paid out. It's the $250 you hear about in end-of-life insurance ads. So a person could have gotten a SSN and not necessarily be in the SSDI...


Edited by - jkmarler on 03/02/2014 16:43:50
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  16:47:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Last Name

First Name

Age

Month

Day

Year

Cert nmbr

County

Born

FHL Roll


1 Johnsen Haakon 65 y Jul 29 1947 16722 (1947) Manhattan 1881 - 1882 2133778

http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeathresults.html?last=jo*&first=haakon&kind=wildcard&county=Manhattan&year1=&year2=&age1=&age2=&unit1=4&unit2=4&birth1=&birth2=&month=&day=&year=&host=www.italiangen.org
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  16:52:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
opps--wrong person copied
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peder
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  18:21:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
some info Re Olivette

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XM8N-SM3
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haraldlonning
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  21:06:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

I wondered about your birth date for Haakon, Harold, but peder has proved Hakkon's birth 29 July 1903 to be correct (thank you peder). Are you seeking Haakon's death date and death place? If you don't know it, then perhaps it's worth ordering the death certificate for the Haakon who died February 1972 (as peder posted)? Doesn't seem likely, though, that an SSDI birth date would be wrong, so that's puzzling.




I tried to order the death certificate but they must have a date and month, and that is what I don't have. How can I then order the certiifcate?
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haraldlonning
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  21:11:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

I wondered about your birth date for Haakon, Harold, but peder has proved Hakkon's birth 29 July 1903 to be correct (thank you peder). Are you seeking Haakon's death date and death place? If you don't know it, then perhaps it's worth ordering the death certificate for the Haakon who died February 1972 (as peder posted)? Doesn't seem likely, though, that an SSDI birth date would be wrong, so that's puzzling.


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haraldlonning
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Posted - 03/02/2014 :  21:17:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

I wondered about your birth date for Haakon, Harold, but peder has proved Hakkon's birth 29 July 1903 to be correct (thank you peder). Are you seeking Haakon's death date and death place? If you don't know it, then perhaps it's worth ordering the death certificate for the Haakon who died February 1972 (as peder posted)? Doesn't seem likely, though, that an SSDI birth date would be wrong, so that's puzzling.




Yes, Peder has right. 29. july 1903 is correct. I have tried to ordet the death certificate for 1972, but they must have correct fate and month, whitch I don' t have. Hoe cqn I then order the certificate? Any suggestions?
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