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Janice Johnson
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 Posted - 14/03/2014 : 00:08:57
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Seeking death date and burial date for Bernt Martinsen, born Sandermoen, Grue, Hedmark on 12 December 1859,
Emigrated from Sandermoen to Kristiania 20 March 1882.
Found on 1910 census: Hedemarkgaten 3, Kristiania. Last found in Valerenga, Kristiania until 1930, then the death records are private for internet. Bernt died after 1930.
Thanks so much for any help!
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 02:04:11
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You're sure he didn't move from Valerenga to some other parish?
You could squeak out a few more years (looks like to the end of 1934) in the dødsfallsprotokol--like a "mini" estate record collected on every deceased person in the jurisdiction (in the case of Oslo all the parishes), chronologically. Lot more looking than any single parish register of deaths.
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/search/?forvaltning=&fylke=03&embete=&protokoll=&periode=&navn=
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Janice Johnson
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 06:27:55
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| Honestly, I truly do not know if he might of moved. Thanks for the link, and have already started looking! |
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Janice Johnson
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 08:26:14
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| Is there a way to see the 'register' for 1950-1950 #1108 1 ???? The longer writing for 1950, and not just the book of names?? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 13:06:20
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Online? If it's not there, it's probably not online. But you are speaking of this entry for Bernt Martinsen, stone and earthworker, right?
Source information: Oslo county, Oslo skifterett, Dødsfallsprotokollregister 50 (Hbe 0050), 1950-1950, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Permanent page-link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27261/44/ |
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Janice Johnson
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 16:24:01
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Frankly, I really can't read Norge, but do understand seeing a name or birth, etc. . Now, looking at first link you sent, I went through everything in the (example: 1830-1830)... Think I found 4 Bernt Martinsen's: 1930-1930, had one Bernt M., then looked in the book with longer writing,: I believe "this" Bernt was 82 1/2, so he would be too old. (#894,II, 10/8, 1930 - my Bernt should be 71 yrs). Second possible found: 1940-1940= #1359,II,10/10 = can't see in larger book to know age at death which mine would be 81; third found in 1945-1945, #1778, I, 19/12 = mine should be 86 yrs; then fourth one found: 1950-1950, #1108,I, 20/8 , Martinsen, Bernt... but the last 3 do not seem to have the book with longer writing to see age died..
Thanks for the help, but guess I really do not know exactly what I am doing. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 16:45:36
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I have searched the cemeteries in Oslo with no luck.
His grave can be deleted, but will be rec. in the archives.
More and more are getting online, depending on volunteers from the genealogy assosiation Dis-Norge.
It is just to be patient 
Cemeteries in Norway, link
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JaneC
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 17:43:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Janice Johnson
Found on 1910 census: Hedemarkgaten 3, Kristiania. Last found in Valerenga, Kristiania until 1930.
Where / how did you find him in Valerenga, Kristiania in 1930?
Have you found the death and burial site of his wife or children?
One could trace these, to see if he is buried with any of them, and sometimes a person is buried near parents or siblings.
1910
Kristiania kjøpstad, Hedemarksgaten 3
Bernt Martinsen b 12.12.1859 Grue Solør, Løsarbeider
Anne Martinsen b 05.02.1845 Kongsvinger
Karen Marie Martinsen b 04.10.1885 Kristiania
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Janice Johnson
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 18:01:21
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Thanks, Kare... I have looked in Dis-Norge.. but not found there..
JaneC - A friend found him in Valerenga, Kristiania. His wife, Anne;, I did find her, as she died in 1924, #1022, I, 9/9. (but honestly, I can't read what it says about her.) She was born in Vinger, Grue, Hedmark... died in Kristiania, 09 Sept. 1924.
Thanks very much to you all- |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 18:12:27
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Janice Johnson
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 20:03:55
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Gravferdsetaten i Oslo kommune
Gravnr Navn Gravlund Fødsel Død
07.017.12.013 Bernt Martinsen Grefsen kirkegård 1877-04-28
1950-08-21
10.080 Bernt Andreas Martinsen Østre gravlund 1855-05-04
1945-12-19
22.040 Bernt Martinsen Nordre gravlund 1902-01-14
1979-09-30
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Janice Johnson
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 21:28:31
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jkmarler - Excuse me, but what exactly is it you sent... I am rather slow, and don't get it. ????
If - I think I am reading this right, then none of these are "my" Bernt, right??
Thanks for all the help... GREATLY appreciated!
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/03/2014 : 01:52:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Janice Johnson
jkmarler - Excuse me, but what exactly is it you sent... I am rather slow, and don't get it. ????
If - I think I am reading this right, then none of these are "my" Bernt, right??
Thanks for all the help... GREATLY appreciated!
Janice
Those Bernt Martinsens were the only Bernt Martinsen listings at the Oslo Community database of burials. Even though there isn't a Bernt b. 1859 there you could use the information to see if it could eliminate one or another of the Bernts you found in the dødsfallprotokol.
As to what was in Anne's dødsfallsprotokol I think it says that she is survived by her husband a losarbeider (pilot worker) and an adult child. I'm not sure what's in the next column. |
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Janice Johnson
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Posted - 15/03/2014 : 03:38:35
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THANKS ALL, for your help! I will continue to check now and then with Dis-Norge,
Janice |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 15/03/2014 : 11:33:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Janice Johnson
Bottom one, right side:
Source information: Oslo county, Oslo skifterett, Avd. I, Dødsfallsprotokoll B 13 , 1924-1925, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Permanent page-link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27278/93/
Permanent image-link: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk20090514320642.jpg
Not easy to understand all of it.
Oslo probateregister Sept. 9. 1924
"Kone" Wife Anne Martinsen 79,5 "aar gl." years old dead 9? in "Hedemarksgt. 3." Hedemarks-street 3.
"Efterl." (Efterlater) Leaving husband "løsarbeider" daylaborer Bernt Martinsen........"og" and ............."barn" child/children.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 15/03/2014 11:35:25 |
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Bernt Martinsen Sandermoen
