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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 25/03/2014 : 01:00:23
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Originally posted by jensen90
Could there be many living descendants then after some of Elen Marias sivlings then in Norway? if not some or all of them emigrated to Amerrica too, in that cencus from 1865 Elen must be 20 and emigrated then or moved away and married with Jens Andersen?
Yes Elen Maria's siblings could have living descendants. More work needed to know what became of her siblings.
Elen Maria and John M. married 1869 in Glemmen, see record previously posted by eibache. Here it is again:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061017030666.jpg
On this link, below, an 1865 census record that could be your Elen Maria. She is a "logerende," Not sure, maybe lodger? Maybe eibache will help with translation. Her occupation is "Syning." She is living with Christen Helgesen, who could be a brother to her father - or just a coincidence of name.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037995002032
1865
Sletner farm, Skibtvedt, Østfold, Norway
Andreas Helgesen age 54 - all in family born Skibtvedt Prestegjeld
Olia Eriksdatter, his wife, age 45
Johan Andreasen 18 [born about 1847]
Hans E Andreasen 16 [born about 1849]
Karoline Andreasdatter 13
Julius Andreasen 8 [born about 1858]
Augusta O Andreasdatter 4
Lovise Andreasdatter 1
Here, a map. The blue pin shows Slettner farm.
http://kart.finn.no/?lng=11.37620&lat=59.37041&zoom=9&mapType=normap&markers=11.16358,59.44272,b,Brukerdefinert
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Edited by - JaneC on 25/03/2014 02:26:07 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 02:22:04
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Here is an Ancestry message board post from ten years ago:
"I'm looking for any help in finding more on my G-Grandfathers family. He was born on the date above, 12 January 1859 .... I do know from his death record that his fathers name was Andrew....
and married Elisabet Eriksen 29 April 1877. They had 2 children before comming to the USA. He came in the USA by way of Detroit and settled in Dunn County Wisconsin in the city of Eau Claire, They had a total of 9 children and Elisabet died before the age of 40. Julius went by the name of Julius Billett or Billet. His declaration of intent is in the mane of" Billett." He died at the home of his daughter Mrs Baker in 1930 at the age of 72 any help will be greatly appreciated, Thank You"
Another post by same descendant:
"His name was Julius Billett, born 1858.... Julius came to the USA to the port of Detroit , Mi July 1879 ....he made his Declaration of intent in Dunn Courty Wisconsin. The church records at the First Luthern Church, in Eau Claire,Wisconsin say two of the children were baptized in Fredrikstad, Norway. 1. Bernhard Billett Born 1877 and 2. Ole Andreas Billett born Jan. 3, 1880....other children Henrik 1882, Regne 1884, Carl 1886, Arthur 1888, Agnes 1893, Bessie 1898. Because the second child was born after Julius left for America, I think his wife Elizabeth Erickson (Swedish) born Jan 13,1861 must have come over latter with the children."
This date of birth matches Elen Maria's brother Julius.
Skiptvedt, Østfold, Norway
12 January 1859
Julius Andreasen
Father Andreas Helgesen
Mother Olia Eriksdatter
SOURCE: Østfold county, Skiptvet, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1839-1860), Birth and baptism records 1858-1859, page 98.
See #13
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061003100107.jpg
There's a Billet farm in this area; perhaps the Andreas Helgesen offspring lived there before emigrating and took that farm name as a surname.
Elen Maria buried in Tacoma - a Hans A. Billett born 1850 is buried near her. A Hans A. Billett born about 1850 lives in Ashland, Wisconsin in 1910.
Jens Anderson is buried in the same cemetery as this man:
Find-a-Grave memorial
John Billett (1847-1900)
Burial Mount Hope Cemetery, Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BI&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=51&GScntry=4&GSsr=4281&GRid=25000963&
Again, the post by the great-great grandson of Elen Maria Andreasdatter; he says family lore tells of a relationship to the Billett family. He says John Billett had a wife Olivia (or similar)
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/151818-66451-john-billettskiptvet-elen-marie-andes-birketved-oestfold-oprinnelse/
This could be the John he means; John could be Elen Maria's brother - a possibility to be explored.
1880 US census
Tainter, Dunn, Wisconsin
John E. Billet 32 born about 1848 Norway
Oliva Billet 28
Anna O. Billet 5
Julia E. Billet 3
Cissie B. Billet 1
In 1900 US census John and Olava Billet are in Ashland, Wisconsin.
Here is a link to the Wisconsin death record of John Billet. A copy of the original could be ordered. The original might tell who are his parents to confirm the connection.
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/vitalrecords/index.asp?id=274462&record_type=d
Since an American descendant gives the exact date of birth for Julius Andreasen Billet, matching that of Elen Maria's brotther Julius, it is a likelihood it is the same family but more work is needed. |
Edited by - JaneC on 25/03/2014 04:10:11 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 03:46:39
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from Washington state digital archives
DEATH RECORD
Hans A. Billett
Date Of Death: 10 Jul 1929
Age: 79 [ born about 1850 ]
Gender: Male
Father Name: Adrus Billett <------------ likely = Andreas
Mother Name: Ellen Erickson <--------- Elen Maria Andreasdatter mother was Eriksdatter
Batch Id: 276475
Batch Locality: Washington, United States
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
Mother Name Gn: Ellen
Mother Name Surname: Erickson
Searching Washington state archives, many of the same Billett names occur as appear in earlier years in Ashland, Wisconsin,
for example the unusual name of Caesar Burnett Billett ("Cissie B. Billet" in the 1880 census posted. He is "Ceasar Billett" with wife Anna in Ashland in 1910. I am citing transcriptions as indexed on Ancestry.com)
DEATH RECORD
Caeser Burnett Billett
Date Of Death: 21 Aug 1947
Age: 68 [born about 1879]
Gender: Male
Place Of Burial: New Tacoma Cemetery
Burial Year: 1947
Father Name: John A. Billett
Mother Name: Olava Johanason
Batch Id: 277623
Batch Locality: Washington, United States
Burial Date: 25 Aug 1947
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
Mother Name Gn: Olava
Mother Name Surname: Johanason
Spouse Name: Anna C. Billett
LINK:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Search#21
1940 US census
Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
Caeser B Billett 61 born about 1879 Wisconsin
Anna C Billett 57
You can use Family Search website and Washington state archives to piece together more about this family. |
Edited by - JaneC on 25/03/2014 03:57:25 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 25/03/2014 : 04:16:40
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A Genforum post from 2006:
"On a recent trip to Ashland, Wisconsin, I unraveled a family mystery. Long story short is I have a Hans Billett buried next to my great great grandmother, Elen Marie Andersdatter Anderson, in the Old Tacoma Cemetery, Tacoma, Washington. He was listed as Elen's brother in her obituary. Hans had a daughter, Anna, who married her cousin Ceasar Burnett Billett. Ceasar Burnett Billet was the son of John A. Billet and Olava Johansson according to his death certificate. I found several Billett's in the Mount Hope Cemetery in Ashland, Wisconsin and took pictures of their tombstones if anyone is interested. I'd like to learn more about the Billett family, especially if they came from Østfold County, Norway. I need education on this family."
http://genforum.genealogy.com/billett/messages/123.html
(note, the response to the above query is off topic - there was another family Billett from England who lived in Wisconsin, no relation.)
The smoking gun here is this line: Hans A Billet "was listed as Elen's brother in her obituary. "
Bingo
Norway Marriages, indexed on Ancestry.com
Name: Julius Andreasen
Age: 18 years
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 jan 1859
Marriage Date: 29 apr 1877
Marriage Place: Glemmen, Ostfold, Norway
Spouse: Elisabet Eriksen
Spouse's Age: 16 years
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Date: 13 jan 1861
Burials in Cedar Falls Cemetery, Cedar Falls, Dunn, Wisconsin, BILLET surname, first names seem to reflect the family in Norway:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=Billett&GSiman=1&GScid=87702&
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Edited by - JaneC on 25/03/2014 19:02:11 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 19:04:29
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At this point there are so many paths to take, so many records to post, so many individuals to follow up that the project is rather unwieldy.
Perhaps it would be better to start a new thread, focusing on one aspect of this family?
Perhaps a focus on family records in Norway, since this is the Norway Heritage forum. Jens Andersen's family in Norway could be researched, for example.
You could post a link to this thread in your opening query in the new thread.
Just brainstorming - there's no one right way to do this! |
Edited by - JaneC on 25/03/2014 19:08:31 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 23:26:09
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| jensen90, I see you've started a new thread. Good luck. |
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jensen90
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Posted - 26/03/2014 : 10:26:13
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| Thanks for great help on this everyone,y'all helped me alot |
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