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jkmarler
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bobseverson323
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USA
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Posted - 30/04/2014 : 23:59:59
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So siver olson and emerensa olson are possibly johns parents? Im very new to genealogy and am trying to follow. I can't believe the outpouring of help and greatly appreciate all of the assistance! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 00:10:58
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quote: Originally posted by bobseverson323
So siver olson and emerensa olson are possibly johns parents? Im very new to genealogy and am trying to follow. I can't believe the outpouring of help and greatly appreciate all of the assistance!
All possibilities are on the table. We are exploring what sort of connections there might be due to the historical tale.
Here is Siver Olson in 1880 census there is a John in the household who is apparently single and going by last name Olson: Name: Sever Olsen Event Type: Census Event Year: 1880 Event Place: Township 104 Range 51, Minnehaha, Dakota Territory, United States District: 25 Gender: Male Age: 55 Marital Status: Married Race: White Race (Original): W Occupation: Farmer Relationship to Head of Household: Self Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self Birth Year (Estimated): 1825 Birthplace: Norway Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Sheet Number and Letter: 534D Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: T9 Affiliate Film Number: 0113 GS Film Number: 1254113 Digital Folder Number: 004240105 Image Number: 00793 Household Gender Age Birthplace Self Sever Olsen M 55 Norway Wife Aramsie Olsen F 54 Norway Son John Olsen M 24 Norway Son Hans Olsen M 22 Norway Son Sivert T Olsen M 20 Norway |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 00:31:30
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Emigrating to America in April 1863:
5) Sjur Olsen Gjesdal 38 Sivert Olsen 6) Emerense Johannesdatter Gjesdal 38 Emmerense Olson 7) Johannes 14 John Severson 8) Oline 11 9) Johannes 7 10) Hans 4 11) Sjur 1 ½ Source: Sogn og Fjordane county, Jølster, Parish register (official) nr. A 10 (1847-1865), Migration records 1864, page 13.
Johannes is born 10 Oct 1849 in Jølster, Sogn & Fjordane. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 01/05/2014 00:43:21 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2014 : 00:42:22
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Way cool, two Johannes' in the family--the other John Severson who married Betsy Neshiem is on the next census page after John b. 1849 in the 1900 census. No Fred in his family
Here's a link to John b. 1855: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11880-46659-70?cc=1325221 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 01/05/2014 01:09:04 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2014 : 00:48:57
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Yes! The brother John Severson is born 28 Jun 1855.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 00:53:40
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Here they are in Iowa in 1870 US Census.
1870 United States Federal Census Name: Hans Olson Age in 1870: 10 Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1870: Orleans, Winneshiek, Iowa Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Cresco Value of real estate: Household Members: Name Age Lever Olson 44 Emeranca Olson 44 Johans Olson 28 Olina Olson 18 John S Olson 15 Hans Olson 10 Levcrt Olson 8 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 00:54:58
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Sjur Olsen Gjesdal Emerense Andrea Johannesdtr. Årdal Gjesdal (nee Ålhus),b. 1826
Johannes Bendix Sjurson Årdal Gjesdal aka John Severson, born 1849. Married to Marie J. Brevig (1858 - 1894)
Oline Sjursdtr. Gjesdal Kittleson b.1852 Children: Lillie Kittleson + 5 more
Johannes Sjurson Gjesdal b. 1855 aka John Severson, born 1855. Married to Betsy Neshem. Children: Senvil, Minnie, Hannah, Anna, Emma, Mary, Josie, Mabel and Elmer.
Hans Andreas Sjurson Gjesdal b.1859
Sjur Sjurson Olsen Gjesdal b. 1861
The 5 siblings; Sjur, Oline, Hans, Johannes and Johannes:
A sister who did not emigrate: Andrea Sjursdatter Sandal (nee Gjesdal) (1847-1915)
The pictures are from a familypage on http://www.myheritage.no |
Edited by - jwiborg on 01/05/2014 02:55:03 |
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bobseverson323
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 01:09:59
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Wow! Very cool. Thank you. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 02:31:54
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#10 Emerantze Andrea Born 10 Jan 1826 Christening: 15 Jan 1826, Jølster, Sogn og Fjordane Parents: Johannes Pedersen & Anne Olsdtr, Ålhus (Aalhuus) farm.
#62 Sjur Born 04 Sep 1826 Christening: 06 Sep 1826, Jølster, Sogn og Fjordane Parents: Ole Hansen & Helene Sjursdatter, Ordal farm.
#15 Marriage 29 Jun 1845 Sjur Olsen Ordal (19) Emmerentze Andrea Johannesdatter Aalhuus (28 ½) (age is wrong, should be 19) His father: Ole Hansen Ordal Her father: Johannes Pedersen Aalhuus |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 02:54:31
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Some information about the Johannes Ordahl family. May be connected in some way with the Seversen/Siversen family. Both are from Jølster, Sogn og Fjordane. Here is the family of Johannes Ordal arriving in 1880.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Johannes Ordal Gender: Male Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Date of Arrival: 11 May 1880 Vessel: Sarmatian Search Ship Database: Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: C-4530
with wife Martha age 35 Endrea age 17 Johannes age 16 Johan age 13 Ole age 10 Plus three others whose names are hard to read. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 03:09:38
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#63 Andrea Born: 20 Sep 1863 Christening: 27 Sep 1863, Jølster, Sogn og Fjordane Parents: Johannes Johanessen Ordal & Marthe Johannesdatter
Andrea Sjursdatter Gjesdal (the sister that didn't emigrate) is one of the godparents. This christening is 6 months after the emigration of the Gjesdal family. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 01/05/2014 03:15:00 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2014 : 03:27:34
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Possible for Johannes and Marthe Ordal in the 1865 Norwegian Census.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2014 : 03:35:36
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Ordal family in the 1900 US Census.
1900 United States Federal Census Name: Johan Ordahl Age: 33 Birth Date: Mar 1867 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1900: Buffalo, Minnehaha, South Dakota Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Johanes Ordahl Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's name: Martha Ordahl Mother's Birthplace: Norway Occupation: Household Members: Name Age Johanes Ordahl 59 Martha Ordahl 58 Johan Ordahl 33 Albert Ordahl 16 Maria Ordahl 21
And a candidate for the Johan age 33
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Johan Andreas Johansen Name: Johan Andreas Johansen Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 mar 1867 Baptism Date: 10 mar 1867 Baptism Place: Helgheim,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway Father: Johannes Johannesen Mother: Marthe Johannesdr FHL Film Number: 126457
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2014 : 03:49:06
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Possible two children from the 1865 Census.
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Johannes Bendix Johansen Name: Johannes Bendix Johansen Gender: Male Birth Date: 14 jan 1862 Baptism Date: 19 jan 1862 Baptism Place: Helgheim,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway Father: Johannes Johannesen Mother: Marthe Johannesdr FHL Film Number: 126457
And the Ancestry record on the Jan Peter post on Andrea
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Andrea Johansen Name: Andrea Johansen Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 sep 1863 Baptism Date: 27 sep 1863 Baptism Place: Jolster,Sogn Og Fjordane,Norway Father: Johannes Johannesen Mother: Marthe Johannesdr |
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