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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 18/05/2014 : 01:49:37
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Here is a possibility for the martriarch of the Dokken family in the US. . She is listed as the mother of Paul Larsen, this name confuses me but that is what the census says.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Sigri E Dokken
Age: 82
Birth Date: Nov 1817
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Mekinock, Grand Forks, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 9
Mother: How many children: 12
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Paul Larson 61
Margit Larson 43
Nive S Nilson 16
Sigri Dokken 6
Sigri E Dokken 82
Theo Hensrud 20
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Edited by - AntonH on 18/05/2014 16:48:09 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2014 : 06:37:16
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is a possibility for the martriarch of the Dokken family in the US. Probably corresponds to Sigrid Dokken age 63 in the emmigration record posted by Jackie. She is listed as the mother of Paul Larsen, this name confuses me but that is what the census says.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Sigri E Dokken
Age: 82
Birth Date: Nov 1817
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Mekinock, Grand Forks, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 9
Mother: How many children: 12
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Paul Larson 61
Margit Larson 43
Nive S Nilson 16
Sigri Dokken 6
Sigri E Dokken 82
Theo Hensrud 20
Sigrid's initial E is significant. She is on the list of people moving out from the parish in 1881 as widow Sigrid Eriksdatter on this page:
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol, Parish register (official) nr. I 4 (1876-1886), Migration records 1881, page 321.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5872&idx_id=5872&uid=ny&idx_side=-269
This Sigrid is the widow of Nils Båste and she and Nils were the parents of Liv Nilsdatter the wife of Eivind Hansen and aunt by marriage to Kari Iversdatter (who is also on the same page of migrants in the church register. ) Sigrid and Nils moved around a bit, according to Hemsedalslekthistorie from Båste to Toregarde in 1865, in 1868 from Toregarde to Dokken and from there to Meiningen in Valdres. Nils was visiting in 1872 at Dokken when he fell ill and died. Liv's brother Iver Nilsen bought Skjerpingen in Valdres, lived there some years and married Kirsti Knutsdatter Groset. In the winter of 1880-1881 Iver came to Dokken and at the time there were 17 people living there in two buildings, apparently very cramped.
Inspite of the name being transcribed in the emigrants list from Oslo as Iver Hans. Dokken, I think he is actually Iver Nilsen who is in the list of migrants on the same page as Eivind and Liv in the church register.
Sigrid Eriksdatter Dokken cannot be the same person as born in 1818 in Nes since the Nesning was a Hansdatter. Kari is the niece of Eivind Hansen Dokken and all the other Dokkens are related only to her by virtue of her uncle's marriage into the family --so they are "in-laws." |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/05/2014 : 16:42:38
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Thanks for clearing that up Jackie, that explains why in the 1900 US Census Iver is listed as Iver N Dokken. I posted that much earlier, but here is the 1910 US Census record for him and his wife.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Iver Dokken
Age in 1910: 66
Birth Year: abt 1844
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Lakeville, Grand Forks, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Kjirsti Dokken
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Iver Dokken 66
Kjirsti Dokken 63
Karoline Dokken 25 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2014 : 16:58:16
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In the 1915 North Dakota Census Sigri was living with John Dokken. and family. Likely the Johan Dokken age 21 in the emmigration list.
North Dakota, State Censuses, 1915 and 1925
Name: Sigri Dokken
County: Bottineau
Town/City: Sherman
Census Year: 1915
Race: White
Roll: ndsc_6856
LINE: 34
Family Number: 5 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2014 : 17:08:02
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To complete the passenger list information, here is the record for Even Dokken and his family. Looking back it is clear that Kari Iversdatter and her daughter Brigit are transcribes as K and B Sypresson and they are sandwiched between the Even famly and the Iver family on the original manifest. Looking at the origianal manifest the names can be seen to be K Iverson and B do.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: E Dokkin
Arrival Date: 23 May 1881
Birth Date: abt 1836
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of New York |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2014 : 17:18:45
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Cyndi, you may be interested in this information since you seem to have a subscription to Ancestry.com. Since all of Jackies good posting I have come to better understand this family. and with this information I found several Family Tree's on Ancestry.com. One especially for
Sigri Eiriksdatter Dolehuso
Birth Nov 1817 in Norway
Death 1902 in Mekinock, North Dakota, USA
Owner is payspal under the Grace Family Tree.
This tree is fairly well sourced. It also explained the issue with Paul Larson in the earlier post of the US Census. He is of course a son-in-law of Sigri not her son. He is married to
Margit Myte Dokken
Birth Jan 1857 in Baste, Norway
Death
daughter of Sigri. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/05/2014 : 22:02:07
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From Hemsedalslekthistorie pg 384:
The parents of Kari's father Iver Trondsen are Kari Torjusdatter 1784-1847-63 and Trond Ivarson Brandvøl 1780-1855-75 who were married in 1814, they lived on Træe from about 1814 and up.
Kari Torjusdatter's parents are Torjus Olson from Aalsgjeld and Jartrud Ivarsdatter born 1738, who married in 1766. Jartrud Ivarsdatter's parents are Ivar Anfinnson and Guri Hallsteinsdatter (Vollø?)
Kari Ivarsdatter b 1853 had siblings Trond who was mentioned earlier, and brother Hans b. 1857 who was in underofficer's school but about whom nothing further is known and brother Ola b. 1859 who died young and brother Ola b. 1862 about whom little is known. Ola b. 1862 did live to be confirmed here is his record #9:
Source information: Buskerud county, Hemsedal in Gol, Parish register copy nr. II 5 (1875-1891), Confirmation records 1878-1879, page 82.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1091&idx_id=1091&uid=ny&idx_side=-77
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Cyndi Perkins
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 18/05/2014 : 22:26:51
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Y'all are absolutely incredible! I am overwhelmed! I never expected to be given information this many generations back - I thought we were doing really well just confirming what Aunt Betty told me and establishing who Grandmother's biological father was! I have copied and pasted all of the posts from about page 4 or so on and will do my best to assimilate the information. I just need to get it all in order............I'm kind of funny that way. 'o)
Thank you ever so much.
Ted has told me that in order to use the Norway Heritage records proper I have to cite their origins - something with which I would have no problem if I could figure out how to copy them to my tree. Barring that, I hope it's okay that I have taken the pertinent information and posted it there.
Rarely have I found more generous people than genealogists! Ted has been great and I'm sure will continue to be. I have had the privilege of meeting several cousins in different generations from different parts of my tree and without an exception they also have been wonderful. My gratitude overflows. I will be back!!
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2014 : 22:56:37
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Ted has told me that in order to use the Norway Heritage records proper I have to cite their origins - something with which I would have no problem if I could figure out how to copy them to my tree. Barring that, I hope it's okay that I have taken the pertinent information and posted it there.
I am going to assume that you are going to add Norwegian source information to an Ancestry.com Tree since we know that you have one. I also have one so I will tell you how I do it using my Family Tree Maker on my home computer.
In Family Tree Maker highlight the person of interest
Click on Person
Click on the event for example Birth
Click on New on the far right hand side
Up pops a box, to keep the system working properly I usually make the Source Title unique to the individaul for example I might use the title Kari Iversdtter 1858 for her birth
For citation detail I might just put Digitalarivet
For citation text I usually put the location of the item for example "right hand page on bottom number 82"
A critical item is the web address so you or someone else can easily find the citation
On the webpage for example the one above for the confirmation of Ola
Go to that page by clicking on the link
On the top line of items click on Bildestørrelse and select 100%
Next item Bildeinformasjon: click on Øverst
Up pops the links,
Select permanent sidelenke by highlighting it, the easiest way to highlight the whole line is to hover the cursor over the far right handside of the line usually the last nuimber and click, that should highlight the part of the line you want.
Click copy
Go back to your Family Tree program and place the cursor over Web Address, click paste then click OK and you should be done
You can put more information in the Family Tree Maker box of course if you wish but I have found that the most important part is the Web Address and keeping each box unique. Family Tree Maker has a habit of at times changing all of the Sources over to the most recent one if I am not careful to keep the Sources unique. I do that with the Titile although I suppose that if I understood Family Tree Maker better I could do it other ways.
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Cyndi Perkins
Starting member
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Posted - 19/05/2014 : 04:48:18
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I do so appreciate your help, Anton - I will get after it tomorrow when I am on the computer that has the linked tree. It should update the online tree when I'm done, correct? You guys are so great.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2014 : 15:53:42
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| Yes, if you make changes in your Family Tree on Family Tree Maker it will update your online tree. Sometimes it will start to update automatically when you attempt to shut down the Family Tree Maker. However if you want to make sure it updates click on the Up/Down Arrow in the far right upper corner, A box will pop open, One of the options will be Sync Now. Click on it and the sync will start. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/05/2014 : 16:24:20
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The actual title of the book I've mentioned is:
Hemsedalsslekthistorie 1693-1975 by Hans Flaten and Ola Rudvin; published by Hemsedal Kommune 1976 |
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Assistance for "Grindahl, Karen 'carrie'
