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jensen90
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 Posted - 17/10/2014 : 17:29:58
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| Looking for information on Olav Hansen Båsnes born in Midstokke,Norway around 1898-99,he was married in Norway to Tora Mathilde Bratthammar,he went to America to work to make money for his family,but they never heard back from him again,they think he was lost at sea,he is said to have lived in Brooklyn over there,would be fantastic to find where he was buried over there very grateful for any help,to solve this case, |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/10/2014 : 18:24:12
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Family tree online here.
A second family tree online here.
Is this the correct person? The birth date is off, and this family seems to have stayed in Norway?
Below, notes from the first tree:
Olaf Johan Båsnes
Far: Hans Andreas Hansen Båsnes (1874 - 1952)
Mor: Inger Lovise Johansdatter (1872 - 1958)
Född: 1901-02-10 Kopervik, Midtstokke
Döpt: 1901-03-03 Kopervik
The birth for this Olaf is found here.
See #5 at Rogaland fylke, Bysoknet i Kopervik, Klokkerbok nr. B 3 (1891-1909), Fødte og døpte 1901, side 59. |
Edited by - JaneC on 17/10/2014 18:39:54 |
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jensen90
Senior member
244 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2014 : 18:49:10
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| Yes that is the correct person. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2014 : 19:20:13
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| Thanks. |
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jensen90
Senior member
244 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2014 : 19:59:29
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| His family stayed behind in Norway,he wanted to take them with him to America but his mother in law were not allowing that,so he went over alone,and thats where the trail goes cold. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/10/2014 : 21:01:57
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A Family tree tells he died on Midstokke 1927 age 26, but the church record for that period seems to be not online.
He had descendants, so maybe it will be their secret.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2014 : 22:21:58
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Thanks. So two lines of inquiry occur.
1. Determine why does the family tree say he died 1927 in Norway? For that you could contact the tree creator or descebdants or find q way to access records not online.
Sometimes a "death date" only means the person died after that date.
2. Investigate his alleged immigration. For that, we would like to know when did he immigrate? It would at least be after his youngest child was conceived.
Jensen90 can you shed light on a possible time frame for his immigration?
Can you share more possible clues, such as did he have relatives in the USA? Do you know which name was his calling name - Olaf or Johan? Probably 1910 census may provide q clue about that, and/or his confirmation record, or family story. Can you explain why you think he settled in Brooklyn? Is he known to be there at a certain point? One month after leaving Norway? Ten years after? Do you know what was his occupation?
Before we look in the USA for a person who might be called John Hansen there, would be good to know all we can about him.
Search resources:
Ellis Island free website, for passenger list
Ancestry.com (fee, but two-week trial subscription is available free)
Family Search free website
Find-a-Grave free website
Green-wood Cemetery free website (many Norwegians in Brooklyn buried there)
Italian Genweb (though maybe their coverage is too early; covers Brooklyn folks) |
Edited by - JaneC on 17/10/2014 22:38:42 |
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jensen90
Senior member
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Posted - 17/10/2014 : 22:44:07
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| Thank you,yes I know for a fact he did not die in Norway from the descendants here in Norway,there are no tombstone on him in here and the family was told that he might have died on a shipwreck in America possibly after 1927? and they believe he lived in Brooklyn,they think he went over in 1923 maybee he went before that too? it was told that he went over one time on his own,then he came back,before he emigrated for good,i dont know of any relatives he might have had in the US. |
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jensen90
Senior member
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Posted - 17/10/2014 : 22:57:55
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| He was a fisherman sailor,and Brooklyn was where Karmøy people settled then,and i would think he had many connections down there,he probably went down there fresh of the boat from Norway in 1923-24. I dont know what he called himself down there,were Ellis island in operation the1920s? thanks again |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/10/2014 : 00:02:45
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A sister of him, Olga b. March 19. 1899 who married Lars Alexander Thomsen emigrated to America.
Source; Karmøy Slektsforum, Midtstokke page 12.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/10/2014 14:20:03 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2014 : 04:13:45
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Emigration
03 April 1923
Olaf Johan Baasnes m g Fiskeskipper
born 1901
Residence: Avaldsnes
Destination: New york
Ticket? Nei
Cause: Liten arb fortjeneste
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from Ellis Island Website
Baasnes, Olaf J, age 22
Arrived Ellis Island New York 23 April 1923
Last residence: Stavanger, Norway
Port of departure: Southampton
Traveling on the Berengaria
Occupation: Fisher
Marital Status: Single
Nearest relative in country whence he came: None
Destination: Brooklyn
Whether going to join a relative or friend: None
Purpose of coming to the United States and how long planning to stay: Uncertain
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Free to register at Ellis Island website
Family Search listing of the 1923 trip here
1925 New York census
An Olaf Baasnas is listed in 1925 census Brooklyn, Kings, New York
I didn't find his death registered at Italian Genealogical Group
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Here is a family tree for Olaf Johan on Family Search, with quite a few errors. I don't know how to get in touch with the person who created it - if that interests you maybe someone can help. link
I wonder if this man, Johannes Knutsen Baasnes born about 1908 in Norway and lived in Brooklyn, might have known Olaf. Johannes married a woman named Karina and had a daughter Janet ca 1935 who is likely living and maybe might know? In 1940 census Karina is in Atlantic City listed as a widow.
In 1928 Johannes gives Midstokke as his last residence. link
Sailing from Stavanger 1933 |
Edited by - JaneC on 18/10/2014 06:02:47 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jensen90
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Posted - 18/10/2014 : 13:51:15
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| Thank you guys,this is amazing finds,i would love to know more about his sister Olga and where she ended up in America? And if the record of him married over in America is actually the same Olav,it would be very interesting,all the facts match in emigrationyear and birthyear. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/10/2014 : 16:38:20
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Acc. to this family-tree Olga died in Kopervik, Norway 1923.
Widower Lars Alexander Thompson /Grindhaug em. to America 1924 where he married Martha Mikalsdatter Nordstokke, Kopervik, in Brooklyn, Kings NY 1926.
Lars died 1961 in Brooklyn, Kings NY and
Martha died in Hanson, Plymouth, Mass. 1983.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2014 : 18:38:22
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Here's a link to marriage of Lars Thompson 25 April 1926 in Brooklyn. This record calls the bride Martha Johnsen. (Tree gives her father as Ole Mikal Johansen Midtstokke).
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From the tree Kåre posted, Olga Båsnes died 21 feb 1923.
Her husband was Lars, born in 1893, son of Torgils.
Father listed as Torgils Govertsen Grindhaug.
In the April 1923 emigration of Olaf Båsnes (posted earlier), he is listed next to
Lars Torgersen, Fiskeskipper, b 1893 Skutenes, going to New York
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In the passenger manifest (link posted above) showing Olaf Båsnes arriving at Ellis Island, Lars Torgilsen age 29, fisker, is listed next to him. Just like Olaf, Lars says he has no relative to list in back in Norway. Lars has been in USA before, 1911-1915, in Brooklyn. He lists NONE when asked if he is traveling to a relative or friend. Length of stay uncertain.
And a correction to Olaf on the list at Ellis Island: He is #5 on the passenger manifest (Lars is #6). On page 2 of the information for passenger #5, says he is traveling to Uncle Tom Johnson, 570 45th Street, in Brooklyn.
A new finding - below - shows that the Lars who seemed to be traveling with Olaf was indeed his brother-in-law (Olga's husband).
1928
Petition for Naturalization (as United States citizen)
Name: Lars Thompsen, age 35
Birth: 6 Jun 1893 in Akrehavn, Norway
Spouse: Martha, married 25 April 1926 in Brooklyn, New York
Martha was born at Kopervik, Norway 23 July 1901
2 Children:
1) Thorleif born 12 September 1918 in Norway and resides at Kopervik, Norway.
2) Leonard born 29 October 1928 in Brooklyn, New York; resides father's address in Brooklyn
Last foreign residence was Akrehavn, Norway
Emigration from Southampton, England, to New York
under the name Lars Torgilsen
on 21 April 1923 on the SS Berengaria.
Naturalization Date: 28 Sep 1928
Court Location: Eastern District, New York
Witnessed by: Oskar Hansen and John Johnsen
Oskar Hansen resides at 450 61st Street, Brooklyn - barge captain
John Johnsen resides at 701 50th Street, Brooklyn - barge captain
1930 US census
Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Lars Thompsen 36 b Norway, to USA 1924
Martha Thompsen 28 b Norway, to USA 1924
Leonard Thompsen 1
1940 US Census
New York, Kings, New York
Lars Thompson 46 b Norway, fisherman, naturalized US citizen
Martha Thompson 38
Theolief Thompson 21 son, b Norway, fisherman <,-- Olga son?
Leonard Thompson 11 b NY
1942 World War II draft registration
Lars Thompsen
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1893
Birth Place: Norway
Residence: 5523 7th Avenue, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Contact: Mrs. Martha Thompson
The above records can be found at Ancestry.com |
Edited by - JaneC on 18/10/2014 19:25:54 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2014 : 19:44:21
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Ole Hansen and Tordis Abrahamsen marriage 12 Jan 1928, Kings county, New York here
Below, info from Sharon Shumate family tree on Ancestry.com:
Thorlief G Thompson
Birth 12 Sep 1918 in Kopervik, Rogaland, Norway
Mother: Olga Båsnes b 19 MAR 1899 Midtstokke, Stangeland, Rogaland, Norway
Father: Lars G. Thompsen b 06 JUN 1893 Norway; d 12 DEC 1961
According to the tree, Thorlief married 1934 in Massachusetts to
Helga Hansine Hall, b 5 May 1921 Haram, More og Romsdal, Norway
According to the tree, Thorlief died 15 Jul 1979 in Hampton, Rappahannock, Virginia, USA and Helga died 6 May 2006 in Fairhaven, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA.
They had a daughter Lila 1944-2000 (m. Alfred Fleurent)
New York Passenger Lists (Ancestry.com) has passenger manifest of Thorlief coming to USA 1934.
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Edited by - JaneC on 18/10/2014 20:50:47 |
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