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MichaelLeeCT
Starting member
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Posted - 05/12/2014 : 00:27:58
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I have an ancestor named Mads Monsen/Mogensen, born 1728, from Fet, Akershus. His father's name is listed as "Mons Windland" on the parish record. For whatever reason, this doesn't sound like the typical Norwegian patronymic surname to me. I know that men often took a last name that signified where they were from, but I'm pretty sure "Windland/Wineland" was used to signify the New World, although I'm not sure if this makes any sense. If anybody could clarify, that would be wonderful!
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2014 : 02:14:19
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Oluf Rygh online database of Norvegian farm names includes "Vindland" in Fet, Akershus.
To see the location of the farm, go to FINN Kart website. "Sĝk" button means search. Click it and enter Vindland, Fet. A red pin will mark the spot. Zoom and pan as you like. You can choose satellite view or map or hybrid view.
V and W are interchangeable (as you show).
Sounds as if you might be interested to read more about traditional naming customs. Just briefly, a patronymic name (as you seem to know) is a last name based on the father's first name plus "sen" for boys or "datter" for girls. As far as I know, everybody had a first name and a patronymic name. Thus Mons Vindland would have had a patronymic name; it simply is not stated in this record.
More than one person might have the same name, so an additional identifier - the person's address - was often added. The address "name" changed as the person moved. It is not a name for life, unlike the first name and patronymic name, which were lifelong. Vindland is an address name.
As we do now, traditional Norwegians seem to have used short forms of names at times. It is pretty normal for either the patronymic name or the address designation to get dropped in one record and get noted in another.
Likely our Norwegian friends are asleep, but perhaps tomorrow someone may have more information about the farm Vindland for you.
Naming customs modernized in later years.
Family Search shows a daughter Gunnild born to Mons Vinland in 1731. (no d). The spelling will vary, as you know. |
Edited by - JaneC on 06/12/2014 04:41:37 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/12/2014 : 09:46:46
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Windland in Fet 1801
Windland consisted of a main farm and 3 "Husmand" Subfarms. Local names of the subfarms were Duerud, Holen and libraaten.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 05/12/2014 10:03:51 |
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MichaelLeeCT
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2014 : 23:26:03
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That's perfect, thank you so much! |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2014 : 00:13:30
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You are welcome.
quote: Originally posted by MichaelLeeCT
I I know that men often took a last name that signified where they were from, but I'm pretty sure "Windland/Wineland" was used to signify the New World, although I'm not sure if this makes any sense.
Windland/Wineland has not the same meaning as leiv Ericssons Vinland that means Pastureland.
Windland in Fet municipality; Wind- is acc. to professor Rygh an old term for a river that bends in slings. Kċre |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 04:42:49
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Interesting!
Location of Vindland: here on FINN Kart
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Edited by - JaneC on 06/12/2014 04:45:13 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 23:44:41
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Vinland 1956
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