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Pgalb
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  02:01:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm looking for boat records for Iver Anderson Sorum, born 04 Mar 1860 in hadeland, Norway. He left Norway to come to Minnesota (via Quebec) in April 1880 and arrived in Quebec mid may 1880. Eventually he settled in Lisbon township, Mn.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  02:26:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not the "boat" record but perhaps useful to find a boat record:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000012947

By the by, Lisbon is in Yellow Medicine county in Minnesota.
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  03:49:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably not the one you would like. but it appears as if he did travel to Norway at least once in his life in Minnesota. Finding the immigration for 1880 is a little more difficult.

NAME: Iver A Sĝrum
ARRIVAL DATE: 18 Aug 1927
BIRTH DATE: abt 1860
AGE: 67
GENDER: Male
PORT OF DEPARTURE: Oslo,NRW
PORT OF ARRIVAL: New York, New York
SHIP NAME: Stavangerfjord
SEARCH SHIP DATABASE: Search for the Stavangerfjord in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

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AntonH
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  04:01:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a candidate. Looking at the original manifest I would read the name as Iver A Sorenson not Mr A Sorenson. He is listed as travelling to Lacrosse.

NAME: Mr A Sorensen
GENDER: Male
AGE: 20
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1860
DATE OF ARRIVAL: 11 May 1880
VESSEL: Sarmatian
SEARCH SHIP DATABASE: Search for the Sarmatian in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
PORT OF ARRIVAL: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
PORT OF DEPARTURE: Liverpool, England

From Ancestry.com

Edited by - AntonH on 19/12/2014 04:02:02
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  04:07:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here he is leaving Oslo. I am quite certain that he is also the one I posted directly above arriving in Quebec. The reason for that is that the two passengers directly above him are Anders Olsen and Thron Olsen, same two as in this record. Also this record lists him as also going to LaCrosse. See number 12947

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=28&filnamn=em03011867tillegg&gardpostnr=12947&personpostnr=12947#nedre

Edited by - AntonH on 19/12/2014 04:11:13
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  04:14:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same person, different data base on Digitalarkivet.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000012947
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Pgalb
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Posted - 19/12/2014 :  12:41:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your help.

Pam galbraith
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Pgalb
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Posted - 20/12/2014 :  04:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The fare (frakt sdt/kr) for Ivers transatlantic trip reads 193 according to the above record. What currency is listed?

Pam galbraith
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Kċarto
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Posted - 20/12/2014 :  10:26:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pgalb

The fare (frakt sdt/kr) for Ivers transatlantic trip reads 193 according to the above record. What currency is listed?



Iver paid 193 kroner for the ticket.

Spd stands for Speciedaler and kr is an abbreviation for Kroner.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 20/12/2014 10:30:37
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Pgalb
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Posted - 20/12/2014 :  13:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would 193 kr be the total cost of the trip or just the initial leg from Oslo to England?

Pam galbraith
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Kċarto
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Posted - 20/12/2014 :  17:12:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pgalb

Would 193 kr be the total cost of the trip or just the initial leg from Oslo to England?



It was the total cost for the ticket to America.
193 Kroner in 1890 is 16.000 Kroner, ca 2.500 US Dollar, converted in 2013 value.

Kċre
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Pgalb
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Posted - 20/12/2014 :  17:19:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a deal! Did that include meals?

Pam galbraith
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Kċarto
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Posted - 20/12/2014 :  18:38:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure if the ticket included food in 1880, probably not.
For former emigration with sail-ships a family had to bring with them food for several weeks.
There were large ovens on the docks where they fried mostly flatbread that could be stored for weeks without being dagraded..
Otherwice most of the food concisted of smoked or salted fish or meat.
A family on 10 persons or more demanded good organization and logistics.

Kċre
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Pgalb
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Posted - 15/09/2015 :  13:20:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any record of where Iver went after he landed in Quebec In 1880? 1885 Census records show he lived with Maria Melbostad in Lisbon, MN but I'd like to find his location between 1880-1885. I suspect he might of been in Spring Grove, MN, near LaCross, with other Melbostad relatives.

Pam galbraith
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/09/2015 :  13:48:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The posted travel records seem correct; if so, Iver arrived Quebec 11 May 1880. The Canadian government maintains a website for Quebec immigrant arrivals and you might find an incoming record for Iver.

US census day in 1880 was 01 June. I forget the travel time in exactly May 1880, from Quebec by inland waterways and via train, from Quebec to Minnesota, but you can independently research that. It may be Iver is findable in 1880. Norway Digital Archives has databases of Norwegians in the US in 1880. Select "abroad" as the search area.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA) is a modern-day organization that absorbed many of the diverse early Lutheran church bodies. The ELCA archives was recently added to Ancestry.com as a searchable database. Find the Spring Grove church, using your library subscription to Ancestry.com if you don't subscribe. Early church records sometimes include notes re newcomers, attendance, witnesses at weddings and baptisms, gifts of money. Iver might be mentioned.

Early newspapers often included social news or other reasons Iver might be mentioned. The local library or genealogy society in the target area is a better bet for a search of local papers. You could subscribe to a historic newspapers service and search it. Chronicling America from US Library of Congress is a free such site.

I've not reviewed Iver's bio; for immigrant farmers, you'll find land records (filing for homestead, purchasing land, appearing on a plat map). Ancestry.com includes many land records (genealogy related).

Edited by - JaneC on 15/09/2015 14:23:09
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Pgalb
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Posted - 15/09/2015 :  13:59:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for all those resources, Jane!

Pam galbraith
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