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nananders
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  06:24:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did a search for Rood's in Stevens Point...it appears there were a couple of families mainly back in the late 1800's/early 1900's. I haven't done extensive research but on an initial review it looks as though the families had been in the US for quite a while as the children all appear to have been born in Wisconsin and parents were either born in Wisconsin or Vermont.

Nancy
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2015 :  06:32:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was in a series of short notices and articles published in the Duluth Tribune and available at genealogybank.com. (You can get a short trial subscription for $10 or so, if you want to try that.)

The first notice was a classified ad 9 Dec 1918 in which Peter announces that since his wife has left his board he will no longer be responsible for her debts.

Then a longer paragraph on 24 Dec 1918 with the headline "Must Pay Temporary Alimony". It mentions Peter's suit is filed in District Court and yesterday 23 Dec, Judge Bert Fesler ordered Peter to pay $30 / month alimony. Selma is counter suing alleging cruel & inhuman treatment and non support.

Then two short notices of his suit of Selma Rood on 5 Jan 1920 and 16 Feb 1920.

Then a longer article on 20 Feb 1920 titled "Father Gave Child Whisky For Food, Mother Tells Judge" Judge H.A. Dancer granted absolute divorce to Selma on 19 Feb and gave her custody of the 3 children.

So Peter started it off claiming desertion and Selma countered and basically Selma's suit prevailed.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  15:13:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The pastor was Rev Truman F Allen the minister of the Thirteenth Ave Methodist Episcopal church, according the 1903 city directory of Minneapolis. So Selma's family were Christ Scientist, perhaps Peter's family were Methodist. Only a few Methodists in Norway....

Not truly knowing whether or not this thin, thin thread holds any promise or not--I searched in the new engine at digitalarkivet for "methodi" and found about 158 listings. The four following include rud or ruud in their names. I think Christian and Christoffer may be the same man of the four Christian, Chritoffer and Ole are the only ones of such as age to be the parent of someone born in 1880:

Christian P Ruud 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038014006056

Christoffer P Ruud 1875 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052006002353

Christoffer Pederson Ruud 1900 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037133001863

Ole Amundson Krogsrud 1885 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053252006499

Bernt Georg Rognerud 1900 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037426023181

Edited by - jkmarler on 05/01/2015 21:25:25
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JaneC
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  17:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Selma's daughter was Christian Scientist, as I understood it. The daughter was not raised by Selma (Selma placed her in an orphanage). Most often the wedding is in the bride's church, and Selma had parents well established in town, wheras Peter was a newcomer only recently come to Minnesota. They could both be Methodist of course.

Nan, was son of Selma and Peter called Clair Truman? Do you know where does the name come from?


A number of Roods in Minnesota state census 1905.
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amyanderson75
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  19:10:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was her daughter Pearl Olivia Rood? I found a census record for Peter, Selma and Pearl from 1905 in Minnesota and it states that Pearl Was born in Idaho.

Amy A.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  21:34:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is so much that fits here exept for Peder Olafs birth day and where does the Ruud-Rud name comes from.

Kåre
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nananders
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  23:23:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello!

First of all, I want to thank everyone for their help! This is so awesome to have others helping me. Like I said in my original post, I really felt like I had hit the proverbial "brick wall".

Peter and Selma actually had 7 children born...four died. The oldest daughter. Pearl Olivia Rood was born in Spokane, Washington on 17 July 1904. I have a copy of the "birth return" documenting Pearl's birth by a midwife in Spokane, Washington. I just looked at that document again, and it does list the address of where she was born, 6368 Webster Ave. I wonder if I can search to see who lived at that address in 1904??? We are not sure why they went to Spokane, Washington. I have looked for Roods in Washington, and there are some as well as Oregon. But again, I am not sure if or how to tie them to Peter.

The other children in order...
Vivian Rood-born 20 March 1906, died 16 March 1908.
Catherine Coleman Rood- born 23 January 1908, died 28 March 1980 (this is my grandmother)
Peder Rood-born ??? died 12 February 1910
Harold Rood-born 6 February 1911, died 26 March 1911
Baby Rood-born 1914, died 5 June 1914 (we assumed was a still birth since never was named???)
Clair Truman Rood-born 12 May 1915, died 26 July 2002

My grandmother, Catherine Rood and her brother, Clair Truman Rood were placed in the orphanage in Superior when Selma left Peter as Selma's parents said they couldn't have all 3 children come live with them in Minneapolis.

I just checked with Mom, and she doesn't know where the name Clair Truman comes from. She said nothing ever was said that she recalls.

I am off to search the address in Spokane, Washington...

Nancy

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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 05/01/2015 :  23:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Farms mentioned reg. Peder Olaf.
Born in Mesna, Faaberg, Lillehammer.

Confirmed 1894 living on farm Nedre (Lower) Skjeggestad in Fåberg at Lillehammer. Nedre Skjeggestad 1900
Not sure if this was family since the the family used he farmname as surname.

His mother (Regina) Mathea Pedersdatter was from farm Sæterbakengen in Ringsaker

Sæterbakengen 1900, Matheas parents were Peder Johnsen and Olea Olsdatter. Matheas brother Ole b. 1857, married, owned the farm, he was temporary living in Lillehammer.

Sæterbakengen in Ringsaker 1865
Exept for 2 children the whole family came from Fåberg.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 06/01/2015 00:19:33
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/01/2015 :  00:39:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The son Peter is probably the one covered in the Duluth newspaper at genealogybank.com in the 12 Feb 1910 paper as born Feb 3 (or 8 or 6 the ink is very thick and filled the number in and I didn't take the time to enlarge it to see which might be best interpretation of it) at 115 Twelfth Ave West.

Also the death date of Harold is 26 Mar 1912 according the familysearch record posted on page 1.

Edited by - jkmarler on 06/01/2015 00:40:54
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nananders
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Posted - 06/01/2015 :  01:26:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, Harold did die on 26 March 1912, I miss typed that. Sorry.

Kåre,

I think the Peter Olaf, born to Mathea Pedersatter of Ringsaker, is the Peter we eliminated yesterday because he was still living in Norway in 1910 and my great grandfather arrived in the US in about 1900.


Nancy
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CherylD
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Posted - 06/01/2015 :  01:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hav you checked the records of ships from Norway coming into Canada say Halifax or somewhere in Quebec
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nananders
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Posted - 06/01/2015 :  06:29:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I found out that Peter and Selma were living out in Spokane, Washington. I found Peter in the city directory for Spokane for 1904 and 1905. They lived at different addresses in 1904 and 1905. The address they lived at according to the 1905 city directory was E 368 Webster Ave. I went back and looked closer at Pearl's birth record, and that is the address where she was born.

They couldn't have lived there to long into 1905, because Peter, Selma, and Pearl are all listed on the 1905 census as residing in Minneapolis with Selma's parents.

So, I now know they did move out there for a period of time. Just don't know why or if there was family there. Back to the square one!

Nancy
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