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CherylD
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 03:29:36
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My great grandfather emigrated from Valdres Norway in about 1889. He lived in Minnesota and South Dakota. In America he went by the name of Thomas Odden. But it seems his name may have been Tor Knutsen. His father's name was Knut Toresen. He was born in Skrutvold Opland in 1855. His wife Marit and two children Knut and Olea came to America on April 12, 1893 - they used the sirname of Odden. I can't find baptismal records, marriage records for him and have searched under all manner of names to see which ship he sailed on but no luck. If anybody can shed light on this I would appreciate it very much. Marit was from the farm Berg |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 04:50:01
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This appears to be your family in 1900 census living in Pope county, Minnesota. Some variety of emigration dates, this Thomas' mother emigrated in 1882 and himself in 1889: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M93Z-5F5
Thore Knutson #6 Source information: Oppland county, Skrautvål in Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1842-1863), Birth and baptism records 1855, page 46. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8984&idx_id=8984&uid=ny&idx_side=-49
The eldest son Knut #162 Source information: Oppland county, Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1876-1882), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 96. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6129&idx_id=6129&uid=ny&idx_side=-102
Thore Knutson & Marit Jensdatter marriage #26 Source information: Oppland county, Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1876-1882), Marriage records 1882, page 211. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6129&idx_id=6129&uid=ny&idx_side=-188 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 13/01/2015 05:13:58 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2015 : 05:24:17
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CherylD, use Norway archives - Digitalarkivet - to find emigrations and church book records (such as birth, marriage, death). This is the website Jackie used above.
Thore K. Odden born N.aurdal age 34 registered 19 April 1889 to depart Oslo, destination Chicago. Record I saw said he used Angelo shipping line. Think this means a ship, S/S Angelo, which departed Oslo (Christiania) for Hull that day (19 April). From there he probably traveled to a port such as Liverpool to board a different ship for the transatlantic voyage.
An online resource for US immigrations is Stephen P.Morse website. |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/01/2015 01:18:38 |
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CherylD
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 06:01:38
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thanks for the help and good advice.
quote: Originally posted by JaneC
CherylD, use Norway archives - Digitalarkivet - to find emigrations and church book records (such as birth, marriage, death). This is the website Jackie used above.
Thore K. Odden born N.aurdal age 34 registered 19 April 1889 to depart Oslo, destination Chicago. Record I saw said he used Angelo shipping line. Think this means a ship, S/S Angelo, which departed Oslo (Christiania) for Hull that day (19 April). From there he probably traveled to a port such as Liverpool to board a different ship for the transatlantic voyage.
An online resource for US immigrations is Stephen P.Morse website.
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CherylD
Starting member
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 06:05:03
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thank you for the research. It is really making more sense now
quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
This appears to be your family in 1900 census living in Pope county, Minnesota. Some variety of emigration dates, this Thomas' mother emigrated in 1882 and himself in 1889: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M93Z-5F5
Thore Knutson #6 Source information: Oppland county, Skrautvål in Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1842-1863), Birth and baptism records 1855, page 46. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8984&idx_id=8984&uid=ny&idx_side=-49
The eldest son Knut #162 Source information: Oppland county, Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1876-1882), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 96. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6129&idx_id=6129&uid=ny&idx_side=-102
Thore Knutson & Marit Jensdatter marriage #26 Source information: Oppland county, Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1876-1882), Marriage records 1882, page 211. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6129&idx_id=6129&uid=ny&idx_side=-188
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 10:27:21
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The baptismal record for Marit Jensdatter is #62. She was a twin and was born Dec 17 1854. Her parents were Jens Eriksen and Olea Eriksdatter, Hagesæt.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 14:51:20
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Thomas Oddens parents, Knud Thoresen and Marit Knudsdatter, were married Febr 19 1855, see #3.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/01/2015 14:58:11 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/01/2015 : 14:57:45
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Marit Jensdatters (Mary Oddens) parents, Jens Eriksen and Olea Eriksdatter were married Sept 28 1850, see #10.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/01/2015 14:59:50 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 13/01/2015 : 16:29:06
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1865 census, Nord Aurdal Skrutvold Knud Thoresen Sletten 34 born Nordre Aurdals Prgj, Gaardbr og Selveier Marit Knudsdatter 37 born in østre Slidre Knud Knudsen 9 born in Nordre Aurdal Nils Knudsen 4 born in Nordre Aurdal Knud Knudsen 2 born in Nordre Aurdal ( as transcribed on Digital Archives here)
Emigration Marit T Odden 36 b N.Aurdal, registered 15 April 1892 to depart Kristiania (Oslo) for New York, traveling on the ship Angelo. Traveling with Knud Odden age 9 and Oline Odden age 4. Link
New York Passenger Lists (Ancestry.com) Name: Marit T Odden Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1892 Birth Date: abt 1856 Age: 36 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Bothnia Marit is traveling with Knud age 9 and Oline age 4. Destination: MINNESOTA
A picture and description of the S/S Bothnia from Norway Heritage here
The Marit Odden who emigrated April 1893 is a different person.
* * * * * * * * Thore registered to emigrate 19 April 1889, departing on the Angelo, to Hull, England. In England he would catch a different ship with a corresponding schedule to sail to the USA.
Here is Thore/Thom's arrival in Philadelphia:
Philadelphia Passenger Lists (Ancestry.com) Name: Ther K Odden Gender: Male Birth date: abt 1854 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 6 May 1889 Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age on Arrival: 35 Years Ship: Indiana Destination: Illinois
A picture and description of the S/S Indiana, from Norway Heritage here
Here you can order a copy of Thom Odden's naturalization records and these tell more about his immigration: Iron Range Research Center |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/01/2015 01:35:28 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 01:40:13
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1865 Norway Census in Nord-Aurdal Residence: Bergsbakmarken Jens Eriksen 42 born in N. Aurdals Prgj. Husfader, occupation: Gaardbr Selveier Olia Eriksdatter 36 N. Aurdals Prgj. hans Kone (his wife) Ole Jensen 14 N. Aurdals Prgj. deres Søn Synev Jensdatter 12 N. Aurdals Prgj. deres Datter Marit Jensdatter 12 N. Aurdals Prgj. deres Datter <-------------------------- Kari Jensdatter 9 N. Aurdals Prgj. deres Datter Olia Jensdatter 4 N. Aurdals Prgj. deres Datter
Link, Marit in 1865 |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/01/2015 01:41:36 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 01:43:39
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Map Skrautvål and Odden. You can zoom in or out, and choose satellite or map view. Map link
Marit and her family are included in a number of online family trees, for example, on My Heritage. Search on the name Marit Jensdatter Bergsbakkmarke born 1854, died 1941. At least one tree had Jensdotter as the spelling. Online family trees are notorious for errors. Many are sound, but all should be researched and verified. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/01/2015 : 13:48:37
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Marit Jensdatters father, Jens Eriksen, was born Sept 18 1824, see #32. His parents were Erik Olsen and Sønnev Guttormsdatter, Thons-ejet. They were married June 4 1805, see 3rd couple on left page.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/01/2015 : 14:04:26
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Marit Jensdatters mother, Olea Eriksdatter, was born March 26 1830, see #36. Her parents were Erich Erichsen and Marit Olsdatter, Tollefshaugen. They were married Jan 1 1817, 1st couple in 1817.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 15:19:32
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So apparently the twins Marit and Sønneve are named after their paternal and maternal grandmothers.
Bygdebok for this area may tell more about these families. The Valdres Samband (Norwegian heritage organization) might have a look up volunteer. Bygdebok likely not available online. |
Edited by - JaneC on 15/01/2015 01:34:38 |
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CherylD
Starting member
Canada
12 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2015 : 16:59:30
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Thank you everyone - all of your replies have been very enlightening and useful in tracing my roots - and it all flows - this is an amazing site. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/01/2015 : 10:19:46
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Sønev Gutormsdatter was baptized July 11 1787, see 3rd record from bottom of right page. Her parents were Guttorm Tørrisen and Gyri Larsdatter, Higdem-ejet.
Widower Gutorm Tørisen and sønevs siblings in 1801.
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