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Ron Iverson
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  01:54:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking for any Norwegian record of my great-uncle, and have found nothing. He entered the United States at Biloxi in May 1900, a crew member on the Norwegian ship Barossa. In various American records he claims to have been born in Bergen 1 August 1879; father Iver Knudsen, mother Gjertrud ___. I find no Norwegian records of any of this.
Growing up in Seattle I remember him as a mostly silent old man, married to my grandmother's sister. They married in the USA the day she arrived from Norway…possibly had never met previously.
Never any discussion of his family or personal history, except that he had once altered his last name to avoid prosecution for "jumping ship" as a merchant sailor.

Ronald A. Iverson

jkmarler
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  10:56:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose you have seen this. Age / Birthyear doesn't match, parent's names don't match, name matches and Hordaland is the fylke around Bergen:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWFZ-FHF

A few more details from his life in US might be helpful.

Here is his WWI draft card, birthdate as 2 Aug 1879:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC3Q-R8Y

Here is his WWII draft card, his birthdate recorded as 2 Aug 1879 & Bergen Norway:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJT-NQ1D

This may be his death record:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/ADAC3A598EC69425F1E40A657B06CEC5

If this is him there are 2 nephews in the household in the 1930 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC3Q-R8Y

Here in the 1920 census the "nephews" from 1930 are listed as sons:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHFP-6V9

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/01/2015 11:49:21
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  11:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the Bergen Baptism 1816-1894 database at the Norwegian Digitalarkivet there are no Iver Gjertin / Iver Gierten born on either 1 or 2 Aug 1879 baptized in any of the covered parish churches in the database.

Also did not find any Iver Gjertin / Iver Gierten in the 1885 census of Bergen at the digitalarkivet.

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/01/2015 12:51:52
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  12:34:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is an Iver Gjertin whose father is Iver and his mother is Gjertrud:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037333002045

Unfortunately the census birth year is correct, not in error, #7:
Source information: Hordaland county, Solheim in Masfjorden, Parish register (official) nr. C 1 (1882-1896), Birth and baptism records 1891, page 29.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2149&idx_id=2149&uid=ny&idx_side=-30

But there are a lot of Gjert & Gjertin in the parish.

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/01/2015 12:52:23
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  12:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1920 census shows Hannah as arriving in 1906. Where did they marry?
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  23:37:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A curiosity.
Barossa in Southern Atlantic with crew rec. in Port Natal, South Africa Oct. 10. 1900 link

Kåre
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dodgeboy12
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  23:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Everythings fits on this one but it's 50 kms or so north of Bergen. Aug 2nd
.

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070514650613.jpg
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dodgeboy12
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Posted - 16/01/2015 :  23:56:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#34
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11609&idx_id=11609&uid=ny&idx_side=-67
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 17/01/2015 :  02:07:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the same person turned up by Dodgeboy12 but from Ancestry.com

Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NAME: Iver Gjertin Knudsen
GENDER: Male
BIRTH DATE: 2 aug 1879
BAPTISM DATE: 28 sep 1879
BAPTISM PLACE: Hordabo, Hordaland, Norway
FATHER: Iver Knudsen
MOTHER: Gjertru Rasmusdr
FHL FILM NUMBER: 124592
REFERENCE ID: 2:26H06H5
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/01/2015 :  02:23:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here his arrival date is listed as May 15, 1900

Washington, Naturalizations, 1853-1980 about Iver Gertin Iverson
Name: Iver Gertin Iverson
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Document Date: 3 Aug 1914
County: King
Country of Origin: Norway
Arrival Date: 15 May 1900
Spouse: Hannah Iverson
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/01/2015 :  02:26:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And for his WWI Draft Card he also gave Aug 2, 1879 for his birthdate.

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Iver Gertin Iverson
Name: Iver Gertin Iverson
City: Seattle
County: King
State: Washington
Birth Date: 2 Aug 1879
Race: White
Draft Board: 04
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/01/2015 :  03:29:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the only Iver from this data base that fits at all Iver Iverson. Brides name is Hilda not Hannah?

Washington, Marriage Records, 1865-2004 about Iver Iversen
Name: Iver Iversen
Spouse: Hilda Evensen
Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1908
Marriage Place: Spokane
Date Recorded: 10 Oct 1908
Reference Number: easpmca7004
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Ron Iverson
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USA
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Posted - 17/01/2015 :  05:12:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks to all for your help. I believe Dodgeboy12 and lyndal40 have found my Uncle Iver's birth and baptism records. Really remarkable.

To answer a question from jkmarler: Johanna Johnsdatter/Johnsen was my grandmother's younger sister. They grew up on a farm near Lygre, Hordaland. Johanna, known to us as Hanna, emigrated at age 30 from Bergen arriving in New York City. The Norwegian emigration record said something like, "hennes forloevende bor i Brooklyn". The next day, 30 October 1906, she married Iver Iverson, a ship's rigger residing in Brooklyn. He had been in the USA 6 years. They married at the Lutheran Pilgrim Mission in lower Manhattan. Had they ever seen each other before? Don't know. In my few meetings with them in the 1950s, they were not given to reminiscing.

Ronald A. Iverson
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/01/2015 :  23:20:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are probably referring to this record.

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=16&filnamn=EMIBERG&gardpostnr=59198&merk=59198#ovre
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/01/2015 :  04:59:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This could be Johanne in the 1900 Norwegian Census.

NHDC 1900
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Carrie B
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USA
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Posted - 24/01/2015 :  03:02:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've enjoyed reading this thread. Ron, I also have an "Iver Iverson" ancestor (Iver Frithjof), who was also a sailor and lived in Brooklyn just prior to that time. :-) It's neat to find these connections. It also highlights the importance of tracing individuals over time... otherwise it is too easy to think you've found an ancestral match when really it was someone else with a similar name!
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