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lisadelozier
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 Posted - 02/03/2015 : 17:14:28
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| While I read this over on emma moen post, I somehow get little confused... so could you clarify that on Only Louis O. Larsen (Larson), that changed name during america, was named Lar Larson. okay, so his parent? that is Lars Larsen b. 10, feb 1842, and Ingeborg Olsdatter b. 10 feb 1844? and both were in Hosanger? so do you have their marriage certicate to show me? I am not going to talk about Ole Olsen Moen right now... this post is about Louis's side and am wanted to find his family down the traits thanks. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/03/2015 : 18:44:25
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Hi Lisa,
Your Louis Olai Larsen was named Lars Olai Larsen when he was born. He was born 13 May 1883 at Østre Kleppe in Hosanger, Hordaland, Norway. And yes, you're right! - his parents were Lars Larsen born 14 Feb 1842 in Hosanger and Ingeborg Olsdatter born 14 Feb 1844 in Hosanger.
Larrs and Ingeborg birth dates in the 1910 Norway census are a little bit wrong. Eibache found their correct birth dates.
1910 Norway census in Hosanger, a household including widow of Louis's brother Johannes, and Louis's parents:
Lars Larsen born 10 Feb 1842 in Hosanger
Ingeborg Olsdatter born 10 Feb 1844 in Hosanger
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036697001213
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/03/2015 : 08:56:40
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so do you have their marriage certicate to show me?
Lars Larsen and Ingeborg Olsdatter were married March 29 1864, see #3.
Lars Larsen was born on indre Eide and his father was Lars Johannesen.
Ingeborg Olsdatter was born on østre Kleppe and her father was Ole Olsen. |
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Edited by - eibache on 03/03/2015 09:22:29 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/03/2015 : 09:00:45
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| Lars and Ingebor at Kleppe østre in 1865. |
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eibache
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Posted - 03/03/2015 : 09:20:12
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The baptismal record for Lars Larsen show that he was born Febr 14 1842 and baptized March 6 in Hosanger church. See #15.
His parents were Lars Johansen and Britha Larsdatter, indre Eide.
Lars Johansen, øvre Kleppe and Britha Larsdatter, Molvig were married April 14 1838, see #3.
Lars Johanessen was born Sept 20 1818, see #22
His parents were Johanes Haldorsen and Britha Larsdatter, øster Kleppe.
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eibache
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Posted - 03/03/2015 : 09:25:33
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The baptismal record for Ingeborg Olsdatter show that she was born Febr 14 1844 and baptized March 17, see #21.
Her parents were Ole Olsen and Anna Johannesdatter, øvre Kleppe.
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Edited by - eibache on 03/03/2015 16:32:36 |
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lisadelozier
Junior member
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Posted - 07/03/2015 : 18:11:55
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| HI am back, (been busy), so I am seeing Ole Olsen Moen two of them one as a Emma's grandparent? or as to this Louis's father? thats my reason to ask i am kinda confused to this. Can you clear this linage to make sure I understand where it coming from? just too confusing. I am unable to find the ellis island weblink as a free. i notice I have to sign up and then after 14 days i have to pay. so I need to make sure the right link! can you add this on this one for both geni and ellie island link. thanks. I am willing to work on this and getting back on ancestry as soon as I can. then go from there on that way i can find the right person and right family ... There could be a milion of Ole O. Moen and or other? i amc onfused. thats why. |
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lisadelozier
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Posted - 12/03/2015 : 15:48:45
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| please do show the different and birth year of both men. , what i am seeing is. emma dad is ole olsen, then. i see loise grandfather is ole olsen? so. ill be back with this. because its little confused. so. bear with me. if its same man, then why is this happens? jane if you look both or three post and its confuse. thanks |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/03/2015 : 18:18:36
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Hi Lisa,
Lars (Louis) Olai Larsen's MOM was
Ingeborg Olsdatter born at øvre Kleppe, Hosanger, Hordaland on 14 February 1844
Ingeborg's DAD (Louis's grandpa) was
Ole Olsen øvre Kleppe,
living at øvre Kleppe, Hosanger, Hordaland. His birth date and parents are unknown (so far). They have not been posted. Wife Anna.
Note: øvre Kleppe is a place (a farm). Sometimes in one record the place is added to the person's name. Sometimes in other records about the same person it is not.
Emma Moen is not related to Louis. The Ole Olsens in her ancestry are different Ole Olsens. Many, many men were named Ole Olsen. When we include an additional identifier when thinking or writing about each Ole, that helps to keep them sorted out.
Emma Olsdatter Moen's DAD was
Ole Olsen Moen, born about 1818 in Vaage, Oppland. His birth date and parents are unknown, unconfirmed (so far). Wife Eli.
Note: Moen is a place (short for Turmoen, a farm).
Hordaland and Oppland are Norwegian fylkes (kind of like US states). Look on a map (Wikipedia has one) to see where Hordaland fylke and Oppland fylke are located. You'll see the two Oles lived in different places. They had different wives, different children. They are not related. The two Ole Olsens have nothing in common but the same name.
When you think or write about these men, try to think of more than just "Ole Olsen."For example:
Ole Olsen øvre Kleppe in Hordaland (Anna's husband, Ingeborg's dad)
Ole Olsen Moen (or Turmoen) in Oppland (Eli's husband, Emma's dad).
Hope this helps.
P.S. I hope also you continue to request clarifications. A little hint: often times other contributors (not me) will have answers and can help in ways I can't. |
Edited by - JaneC on 12/03/2015 23:51:47 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2015 : 01:04:33
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Earlier we posted a GENI family tree for Louis O Larsen's mother, Ingeborg Olsdatter, born 14 February 1844 in Hosanger, Hordaland. As we've talked about, Ingeborg's father was Ole Olsen øvre Kleppe in Hordaland. The GENI tree says Ingeborg's father was born in 1801. The GENI tree says his parents were Ole Magnesen Vestre Kleppe and Anna Nilsdatter Østre Kleppe.
Østre means eastern (eastern Kleppe).
Vestre means western (western Kleppe).
Øvre means upper (upper Kleppe).
Some of the Norwegian experts know more, but to me it seems this must be different sub-farms (parcels) that are all part of the same, larger farm, which is called Kleppe. It's best not to get too hung up on the word that comes before "Kleppe."
On the link below is the birth record that is cited on the GENI tree for Ingeborg's father, Ole Olsen øvre Kleppe born 1801. Look on the right-hand page. There are two columns. One is for boys (drenge). One is for girls. The boys column is on the left. The names of the children who were born are written bigger and darker.
See #17. It says that twins were born - Ole and Magne. The parents are the same as on the GENI tree: Ole Magnesen and Anna Nilsdatter Kleppe. The script is very hard to read. I think it says April 1801.
Link for 1801 birth
I hope someone will comment, please, if the GENI tree is right - if this is the right parents for Ingeborg's dad, Ole Olsen øvre Kleppe born 1801. We're very fortunate to have some contributors who are skilled with this. I am not.
At the top of the web page, just above the church book page, notice a blue bar that has some options including "Bildeinformasjon." Click on Bildeinformasjon. You'll see three options: "Ingen" and "Nederst" and "Øverst." Select Øverst. When you do this, you'll see the following information pop up:
Hordaland fylke, Hosanger, Ministerialbok nr. A 3 (1793-1811), Fødte og døpte 1801, side 44b-45a.
Now you know where in the world you are. This is the Ministerialbok (church book) for Hosanger in Hordaland fylke. Otherwise, when you just look at the church book itself, the place name is not given. "Fødte og døpte" means born and baptized.
Sometimes if we forget to say the place of a record, this little trick can help you figure it out. 
Here is a website that can help you translate Norwegian words:
Gramtrans
I hope maybe this will help a little as you look at the research of eibache, jkmarler, and others working on your project. |
Edited by - JaneC on 13/03/2015 13:53:07 |
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lisadelozier
Junior member
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Posted - 14/03/2015 : 17:14:46
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| thank you jane. that makes sense. wow. lots od ole olsen. oh boy. can be confusing. thank you for making more clear to me. okay ill write this down and makes clear to not to confused with the town or whateveer it is. thanks. have a nice day! |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/03/2015 : 20:21:26
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| You are welcome - and thanks to everyone else as well. ;D |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/03/2015 20:40:28 |
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Looking for Louie O. Larson
