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cherylhouse
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  00:24:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I live in Minnesota and have been doing genealogical research on my Norwegian relatives for about 2 years. I have a book written by a distant cousin that includes information on my family. It states that my second great grandfather Even Paulsen was born on 12/24/1829 at Veldre, Norway in the northern part of Hedemarken on his father's 80 acre farm named Ringsager. His father is listed as Paul Faraasen and his mother Siri. He was christened Even Paulsen it states in the book. I find records in Hedmark for Even Poulsen born to Poul Hansen and Siri Pedersdr on the date I have for his birth. I sense these are the same person, but the names do not quite match. Can you help me with this question please? Thank you

Kċarto
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  00:33:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your info is correct
Both parents were from Lille (Little) Faraasen in Veldre, present Ringsaker municipality.

Even Poulsen (Paulsen) was born out of wedloc and bapt. in Veldre church Jan. 17. 1830
Parents; Maid Siri Pedersdatter Lille Faraasen and Poul Hansen Lille Faraasen, see bapt. #28

Norwegian naming practice can be confusing.

Even was Pouls son-Even Poulsen

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 08/04/2015 00:47:06
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Hopkins
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  01:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Traditional Norwegian naming customs and patterns may be the source of the confusion -
Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns:

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm

Poul Hansen in the 1801 Norwegian census -
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f18010412&gardpostnr=418&sokefelt=skjul

He is living with his family on Faraasen Lille (farm), Ringsaker (parish), Ringsaker (district), Hedmark, Norway.
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cherylhouse
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  04:54:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow! Thank you so much. This confirms so many things including Even's father and his grandparents. It was interesting to see that his grandfather was a schoolmaster as I am a retired educator. I couldn't translate his other profession though.
Thanks again.
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eibache
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  08:20:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Even Poulsen was confirmated Sept 29 1844, see#14. He was then living at Glĉstadeie.

Dec 2 1857 he was married to Karen Larsdatter in Vang church, see #20 on right page.

Even Poulsen and Karen Larsdatter and their 4 children in 1865.

Einar
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Hopkins
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  11:38:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Two website lists that are useful for translating - especially for older terms that we encounter in our Norwegian family history research.

http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na17.html
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Kċarto
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  13:28:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The main building on Lille Faraasen 1965

Kċre
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eibache
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  15:25:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Evens father, Poul Hansen, was born May 24 1790, and baptized June 20, see 7th record left page.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 08/04/2015 15:26:13
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cherylhouse
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  03:32:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All of this information is so wonderful. Thanks you for your hard work!! I was wondering if I could get a little help as to what is in the Poul Hansen record regarding his birth and baptism as there seems to be other names (?). It is mentioned in the post from Einar. Thanks again for all your help.
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eibache
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  07:22:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The other names are those of the godparents (witneses), they are:
Jens Johansen, Faraasen, Ole Olsen, Stordal, Christopher Olsen, Stordal, Sidsel Torgiersdatter, Gimse and Kari Andersdatter, Opsahl.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  07:45:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poul Hansens parents Hans Poulsen and Elie Michelsdatter were both 42 years in the 1801 census, link.

Elie is most likely the one who was baptized Nov 22 1758, 5th record from top of right page. Her parents were Michel Larsen and Maren Nielsdatter.

Einar
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cherylhouse
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Posted - 16/04/2015 :  03:45:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible to get birth or death information about Michel Larsen or Maren Nielsdatter? Thanks so much
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cherylhouse
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Posted - 22/07/2015 :  05:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wondering what it would mean for someone like Even to be born out of wedlock as he was. What kind of stigma would there be or what kind of inheritance problems?
Thanks
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/07/2015 :  15:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, the answers to that are as variable the families into which they were born. What I've seen is mostly that the child will end up living with its mother and her family. In fact these children are often called "gifts to the grandparents," for that reason. If the parents eventually marry, as often they do, then the child is part of the family as well. I don't know what the legalities are about inheritance but it seems that the illegitimates don't inherit from the male side at all. The ugliest situations I've heard of are situations when Mom marries someone other than the child's father and the new husband can be welcoming or terrifying as is his wish.
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