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cherylhouse
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  20:36:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My husband's great grandfather we believe was Johannes Thorsen in Norway. We have his birthdate as slightly different than the one we find in Olen, Hordaland, Norway. Ours is Dec. 1837, but a baptism record shows May 24, 1837. In the USA his last name was House, but some older relatives had told us he was John Thorsen House. We are wondering about records related to his immigration to the USA. In the censuses here he said he arrived in 1864 or 1865. We believe he would have come with his wife Julia Valborg Rasmusdr. We cannot find him in the 1870 census in the USA, but can in 1880. Any help with when he arrived and with whom would be helpful.
Thanks so much for your wonderful help, Cheryl House

jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  21:29:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1880 shows that their son Thor is born in Norway around 1862.

#32 Thor Johannesen
Born: 13 Aug 1861
Christening: 25 Aug 1861, Ølen, Hordaland.
Father: Johannes Thorsen Hustvedt
Mother: Valborg Rasmusdr
Source: Hordaland county, Ølen in Ølen, Parish register copy nr. A 1 (1851-1863), Birth and baptism records 1861, page 44.

Edited by - jwiborg on 25/04/2015 21:53:51
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  22:07:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johannes Thorsen
Born: 25 Dec 1839
Christening: 29 Dec 1839, Fjelberg, Hordaland.
Father: Thor Thorsen Hustvedt
Mother: Magdele(?) Johannesdatter
Source: Hordaland county, Fjelberg, Parish register (official) nr. A 6 (1835-1851), Birth and baptism records 1839, page 47.

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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  22:15:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johannes Thorsen Hustvedt born 25 Dec 1839, chr 29 Dec 1839, moved out of parish to Vigedal on 26 Mar 1863.
Listed as bachelor...?
Right page, #3.
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eibache
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  22:57:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johannes Thorsen. Lilleland and Valborg Rasmusdatter and their son Thor left for Amerika April 1866, see #9, 10 and 11.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  23:04:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johannes Thorsen, Huustvedt and Valborg Rasmusdatter, Kulledalen were married July 14 1861, see #6.

Einar
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  23:30:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arrival of the family into Canada.

Johannes Torresen Rustredt in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Johannes Torresen Rustredt
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1840
Date of Arrival: Jul 1866
Vessel: Leif
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Port of Arrival: Canada
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  23:35:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The records for wife and son as well.

Name: Walborg Rasmusdatter
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1840
Date of Arrival: Jul 1866
Vessel: Leif
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Port of Arrival: Canada

Name: Thos Rasmusdatter
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Birth Year: abt 1862
Date of Arrival: Jul 1866
Vessel: Leif
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Port of Arrival: Canada
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  23:42:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might be your family in the 1870 US Census. Melinda and Martha born in Illinois, rest in Norway.

John Torson in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: John Torson
Age in 1870: 30
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Lisbon, Kendall, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Lisbon
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
John Torson 30
Valyer Torson 29
Torger Torson 9
Melinda Torson 1
Martha Torson 4/12
Anna Folston 10

Edited by - AntonH on 25/04/2015 23:47:07
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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/04/2015 :  23:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Passenger list (Ref #17, #18, #19)

In 1866 the bark Leif departed from Bergen on June 1st, and arrived at Quebec July 7th. She was sailing in ballast, and was carrying 219 steerage passengers and 11 cabin passengers. 3 children were born on the voyage, 1 stillborn. The births: child of Thorsten Knudsen Olmstad (35) and Randi (32), twins - one stillborn, children of Knud Pedersen Braaten (21) and Marit Gulbrandsdatter Olmstad (24). The passengers traveling in cabin was the Norwegian Consul for Wisconsin - O.E. Dreuher (50) and his family: wife Nelli (42), daughter Harriet (19), son Carl (15), son Gustav (12), son Axel (10), son Yngve (7), daughter Jenny (4), daughter Jessy (2), son Abraham Lincoln 6 months, and girl, Elen Haldersdatter (40). The Leif was mastered by Capt. T. Larsen and had a crew of 15. The passenger list was archived by the National Archives of Canada [NAC].

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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  00:18:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the May 1837 baptism record you refer to.
Johannes Thorsen, parents Thor Johannessen Ramsøe & Kari Arentsdr
He is not your guy. He is living with his widowed mother in census-1865

Your John Thorsen House was born 25 DEC 1839.
Btw, the first syllable ("Hus") in the farmname "Hustvedt" means House.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  01:31:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage record #7, 1828
Thore Thorsen (31) & Madela Johannesdr (23)
Date: 05 Jul 1828, Fjelberg, Hordaland
Source: Hordaland county, Fjelberg, Parish register (official) nr. A 5 (1822-1834), Marriage records 1828, page 284.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  02:14:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johannes Thorsen Hustvedt (21) & Valborg Rasmusdatter Kulledalen (21)
Marriage: 14 Jul 1861, Vikedal, Rogaland
His father: Thor Thorsen Hustvedt
Her father: Rasmus Jensen Kulledalen

Valborg Rasmusdr
Born: 06 Apr 1841 16 Feb 1841
Christening: 18 Apr 1841, Imsland in Vikedal, Rogaland
Parents: Rasmus Jensen & Valborg Bjornsdr
Source: Rogaland county, Imsland in Vikedal, Parish register (official) nr. A 5 (1817-1850), Birth and baptism records 1842, page 41.

Valborgs parents and siblings in census-1865, Vikedal, Rogaland

Edited by - jwiborg on 29/04/2015 17:52:39
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  03:23:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possible birth record for the father of Valborg ie Rasmus Jensen.

Rasmus Jensen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Rasmus Jensen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 12 nov 1815
Baptism Place: , Vikedal, Rogaland, Norway
Father: Jens Nielsen
Mother: Susanna Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 126362

See also 12 Nov Right hand page

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15912&idx_id=15912&uid=ny&idx_side=-167

Edited by - AntonH on 26/04/2015 03:23:56
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eibache
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  07:09:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jens Nielsen, Hougen and Susanna Olsdatter, Søreim were married Oct 14 1804, see 1st record on left page.

Jens Nielsen and his parents in 1801.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 26/04/2015 07:10:21
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eibache
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  07:13:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Susanna Olsdatter, her mother, Karen Rasmusdatter and brothers, Erich and Ole in 1801.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 26/04/2015 07:15:10
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