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tomelom
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Posted - 29/04/2015 :  20:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I am looking for a relative that moved to the US in approx. 1920. His name was acctually the english like John Alexander Wilson, he was born Nov. 16th 1900 in Oslo and left behind 4 siblings and his father Josva P. Olsen. His mother Alvhilde Olsen(maiden name Wilson) died in 1916. I know that my great grandfather(Ralph Schlytter) came to visit him in the late 60's/early 70's and I have been told that he died at least after 1975. I have also been told that he moved to California, but this is very uncertain. He had a brother living on the east coast I think by the name of James Vaster.

I have not been able to find anything related to him on this page(on lists etc) nor have I found anything related to the life he had in the US. This has of course to do with his very common name....

If anybody in any way could help me with this, I would so appriciate it!?

Regards,

Tom Bjornrud

Edited by - tomelom on 29/04/2015 20:28:48

jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 29/04/2015 :  22:05:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possibility:

John Wilson
Born 16 Nov 1900
Dead xx Oct 1973
90020 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA

But it gives his birthplace as New York ....?


Edited by - jwiborg on 29/04/2015 22:09:05
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 29/04/2015 :  22:15:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And what about this man in 1940?

Name: John A Wilson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Queens, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Delevan Street
House Number: 113-34
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Queens, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 1B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 16
Occupation: Contractor
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 5500
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 0
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 40
Income: 2000
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John A Wilson 39
Martha E Wilson 39 (wife)
Harry J Wilson 12 (son)
Estell Simpson 80 (mother-in-law)

Same family in census-1930


Edited by - jwiborg on 29/04/2015 22:26:21
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 29/04/2015 :  22:26:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The brother James arriving with wife? and child?:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33879-3324-97?cc=1923888
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/04/2015 :  22:38:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the same man as found by Jan Peter. Note he is marrying in CA very late in life.

John A Wilson in the California, Marriage Index, 1960-1985
Name: John A Wilson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1901
Age: 69
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1970
Marriage Place: Sacramento, California, USA
Spouse Name: Bessie L Cordrey
Spouse Age: 70
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 29/04/2015 :  22:47:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that the New York that is referenced in the Death Notice posted by Jan Peter is the State in which John Wilson received his Social Security Card and not the place where he was born.

John Wilson in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: John Wilson
SSN: 110-26-8205
Last Residence:
90020 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA
BORN: 16 Nov 1900
Died: Oct 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1951)

In this version of his death record the name is John A Wilson, the Social Security Number is the same but the death year is given as 1901? The 1901 may be an error.

John A Wilson in the California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: John A Wilson
Social Security #: 110268205
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1901
Death Date: 26 Oct 1973
Death Place: Los Angeles

Edited by - AntonH on 29/04/2015 22:57:48
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/04/2015 :  23:05:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A candidate for the marriage of the New York John A Wilson.

John A Wilson in the New York, New York, Marriage Index 1866-1937
Name: John A Wilson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 11 Jul 1925
Marriage Place: Queens, New York, USA
Spouse: Martha Simpson
Certificate Number: 1571
Purchase Certificate
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/04/2015 :  23:47:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Family Tree on Ancestry.com identifies the son as

Harry Forrester Wilson
Birth 29 Apr 1927 in New York, USA
Death 18 July 2004 in Arizona, USA

who married

lois jean minton
Birth 7 jan 1928 in Kansas, USA
Death 23 april 2004 in Haysville, Sedgwick, Kansas, USA

Name: Forrester Wilson
SSN: 134-16-4862
Last Residence:
86327 Dewey, Yavapai, Arizona, USA
BORN: 29 Apr 1927
Died: 18 Jul 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

Name: H Forrester Wilson
Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1927
Death Date: 18 Jul 2004
Service Start Date: 4 May 1944
Interment Date: 23 Jul 2004
Cemetery: National Memorial Cemetery Of Arizona
Cemetery Address: 23029 North Cave Creek Road Phoenix, AZ 85024
Buried At: Section B3 Row E Site 23

Edited by - AntonH on 29/04/2015 23:52:30
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JaneC
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USA
3020 Posts

Posted - 29/04/2015 :  23:48:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
California Death Index
Name: Martha Estelle Wilson
[Martha Estelle Simpson]
Social Security #: 110268205
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1901
Birth Place: New York
Death Date: 7 Mar 1986
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Saxton
Father's Surname: Simpson
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2015 :  00:11:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A candidate for the brother of John.

James Wilson Vaster in the U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
Name: James Wilson Vaster
Age: 42
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1913
Issue Date: 11 Apr 1955
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, District Court
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  00:13:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the same man as above.

James W. Vaster in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: James W. Vaster
SSN: 013-26-1062
Last Residence:
02189 Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts, USA
BORN: 26 Sep 1913
Died: 11 Sep 1992
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  00:17:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some information on his wife Asta.

Asta Vaster in the U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
Name: Asta Vaster
Age: 44
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1911
Issue Date: 11 Apr 1955
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, District Court

Asta Vaster in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Asta Vaster
SSN: 015-42-4302
Last Residence:
04348 Jefferson, Lincoln, Maine, USA
BORN: 23 Oct 1911
Died: 17 Sep 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (1967-1968)
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2015 :  00:50:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Might this be John Alexander in the norwegian 1910 census living in Oslo. Everything fits exept the name Wilson is not mentioned.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036392230408

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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2015 :  01:03:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

The marriage of his parents Josva Peder Olsen and Alvhilde Margrete Schlzther.

No 29:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5808&idx_id=5808&uid=ny&idx_side=-195
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921080243.jpg

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 30/04/2015 01:04:14
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tomelom
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Norway
17 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2015 :  14:19:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Thanks for you reply! I have seen this person before, but kind of blew him off, since he have stated beeing born in New york. Also I have not been able to find anything else on him!?

Tom

quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

A possibility:

John Wilson
Born 16 Nov 1900
Dead xx Oct 1973
90020 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA

But it gives his birthplace as New York ....?



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tomelom
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Norway
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  14:28:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I seen this before also, but yes this could indeed be him. Everything seems to be right with both name, age and birthplace. Maybe the John Wilson that died in 1973 was registrated as beeing born in New York, becouse they had lived there!?

Tom

quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

And what about this man in 1940?

Name: John A Wilson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Queens, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Delevan Street
House Number: 113-34
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Queens, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 1B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 16
Occupation: Contractor
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 5500
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 0
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 40
Income: 2000
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John A Wilson 39
Martha E Wilson 39 (wife)
Harry J Wilson 12 (son)
Estell Simpson 80 (mother-in-law)

Same family in census-1930



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