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heathermckenzie
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 00:48:56
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Hello Can anyone help me find information about my husband's great grandfather? I have the marriage certificate for his second marriage in New Zealand in 1889. At that time he was 49. He was born in Gjerpen, Norway. His father was Lars Sivertsen, a farmer and his mother Maline Gurine Sivertsen. Her maiden name was Olsen. I am not sure if I have got Maline's second name correct as it is hard to read the handwriting on the marriage document. His first wife was called Marea and she died in New Zealand in 1887. I don't know anything else so I don't know if he came to New Zealand on his own, with parents, or with Marea. My husband and I would love to know some more. Heather |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 01:07:59
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His baptism is #81 on the left page: Source information: Telemark county, Gjerpen, Parish register (official) nr. 7A (1834-1857), Birth and baptism records 1839, page 40. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7796&idx_id=7796&uid=ny&idx_side=-44
His confirmation #23 left page: Source information: Telemark county, Gjerpen, Parish register (official) nr. 7A (1834-1857), Confirmation records 1855, page 203. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7796&idx_id=7796&uid=ny&idx_side=-216
Here he is leaving the parish for "Wester"[? Waaler I see now#22 right page: Source information: Telemark county, Gjerpen, Parish register (official) nr. 7B (1834-1857), Migration records 1856-1857, page 484. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7797&idx_id=7797&uid=ny&idx_side=-214
He was styled as "bachelor" when he left Gjerpen. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/05/2015 14:12:30 |
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2015 : 01:32:16
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Probably the marriage of Lars and Gurine.
Lars Sivertsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Lars Sivertsen Gender: Male Age: 28 Birth Date: 1802 Marriage Date: 5 jan 1830 Marriage Place: Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway Father: Sivert Hansen Spouse: Malene Gurine Olsdr
See also number 5.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1366&idx_id=1366&uid=ny&idx_side=-158 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2015 01:34:19 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2015 : 01:39:17
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Probably the birth of Lars Sivertsen in Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway.
Lars Sivertsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Lars Sivertsen Gender: Male Baptism Date: 7 jun 1802 Baptism Place: Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway Father: Sivert Hansson Mother: FHL Film Number: 126929 Reference ID: Bk3, p19, #58
Also see number 58
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7883&idx_id=7883&uid=ny&idx_side=-21
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Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2015 01:42:54 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2015 : 01:55:02
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This could be the father of Lars Sivertsen in the 1801 Census. Lars was not yet born, but Sivert was living on the Solie farm in Gjerpen, Telemark. He was single at that time.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058304002168
Here is a good candidate for the baptism record for Sivert father of Lars.
Sivert Hansen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Sivert Hansen Gender: Male Baptism Date: 17 sep 1775 Baptism Place: Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway Father: Hans Solie Mother: FHL Film Number: 126929 Reference ID: Bk2, #107
Note the Solie last name for Siverts father.
Also see number 107 left page.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7882&idx_id=7882&uid=ny&idx_side=-76
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Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2015 02:00:56 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 02:32:27
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Here is a candidate for Malene Gurine.
Malene Gurine Olesdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Malene Gurine Olesdatter [Malene Gurine Gundersen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 24 jun 1802 Baptism Place: Eidanger, Telemark, Norway Father: Ole Gundersen Mother: Karen Halvorsdr FHL Film Number: 126925 Reference ID: 2:13QJPM8
See also June 24 , right hand page.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7861&idx_id=7861&uid=ny&idx_side=-101 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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eibache
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Norway
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eibache
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Norway
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eibache
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Norway
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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heathermckenzie
Starting member
New Zealand
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 10:33:04
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Thank you all very much. So much information so quickly. I am astounded!
Although there are qualifications like "probably" the information seems quite credible to me. So exciting. I will be sharing this information with all of the family.
We will be in Europe again some time in the future and so maybe we should visit some of these places. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 11:02:25
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How nice to visit, yes.
Here on the Gamle Gjerpen website (old Gjerpen) the family of Lars Sivertsen, Engrav is discussed: http://gamlegjerpen.no/Bygdebok/Enggrav/EnggravA.htm
Says that in the church book record of the family incoming to Våle in Vestfold Lars is noted as Lars Sivertsen Riis, if I understand correctly (I don't speak Norwegian and understand only a little), that daughter Inger Karin 1837-1905 lived in Oslo (Christiania), died in Moss. Says Lars and wife had a son Ole Larsen born Jan 1833, died Dec 1833. Often parents name a child after an earlier child who has died, and your Ole may be a namesake for this brother.
And here, same site, Lars's father Sivert Hansen, Riis: http://gamlegjerpen.no/Bygdebok/Riis/SivertRonningen18.htm
The farm name (address name) is flexible and can change.
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Edited by - JaneC on 09/05/2015 13:52:19 |
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heathermckenzie
Starting member
New Zealand
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 06:16:47
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I have now obtained Ole's death certificate and it says he came to New Zealand when he was 37. |
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