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heathermckenzie
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New Zealand
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Posted - 11/05/2015 :  09:09:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to answer another of your questions, JaneC, Ole's death record says "Norway" for place of birth but on the 1889 marriage certificate Gjerpen written very clearly. The only unclear bit of writing on the certificate is for his mother's name where the l and i are sort of run in together.
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olapaaola
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Norway
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Posted - 11/05/2015 :  09:50:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Larson (Enggrav) married Maria Nilsdtr in Oslo Domkyrkje (vor Frelsers kirke, Kristiania) Oct 14. 1861. [ http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=662&idx_id=662&uid=ny&idx_side=-434 ] (#67)
Maria was born July 27. 1836 in Hippe, Ulnes subparish, Nord-Aurdal parish in Valdres.
She was christened in Ulnes church [ http://www.kirkesok.no/kirker/Ulnes-kyrkje ] August 14. 1836. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9371&idx_id=9371&uid=ny&idx_side=-90
Her parents moved to Gausdal - they first lived in the farm Aspesletten in Svatsum subparish, ( http://beta.norgeskart.no/?sok=Aspesletten%2C%20Gausdal#11/221988/6810610/+hits )
later in Hovde in East Gausdal - ( http://beta.norgeskart.no/?sok=Hovde%2C%20Gausdal#14/239217/6804006/+hits )
Maria was confirmed in Gausdal Church May 12. 1850 [ http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8939&idx_id=8939&uid=ny&idx_side=-310 ] (# 4)

Her parents and brothers moved in 1862/1865 to Tana in Finnmark. They are in Census1865 living in "Fingervandet" - http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/bosted_land/bf01038411000011
In 1875 they reside in Sandlien in Tana http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052469001360 - Sandlien: http://beta.norgeskart.no/?sok=Sandlia#10/993024/7861182/+hits

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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 12/05/2015 :  00:29:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow - nice addition olapaaola.

Hi Heather - thanks for adding that. As you can see, we're having trouble finding Ole Larsen (Enggrav) emigration record. We also have not found him in the 1865 census. Several "candidates" to be your Ole Larsen have been checked out from the 1865 census - and found to be NOT your Ole.

So from New Zealand it would be nice to have information on the woman beside whom he is buried. Is she Marie Nilsdatter?

Ole's brother Simon Larsen is another person who could be followed up. Don't know where he is either, in 1865.

Simon Larsen born 07 May 1830 in Gjerpen, Telemark, Norway
Simon

Inger Karine Larsdatter born 12 February 1837 in Gjerpen
Inger Karine

Anne Kirstine Larsdatter born 02 May 1845 in Gjerpen
Anne Kirstine

Edited by - JaneC on 12/05/2015 04:01:08
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 12/05/2015 :  00:54:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, he's in Oslo. Simon Marriage:

MARRIAGE
Simon Larsen age 35, born about 1830 (in Gjerpen, per original record)
Spouse: Ingeborg Marie Enersdr, age 28, born about 1837
Event Date: 31 Aug 1865
Event Place: Trefoldighet Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Father: Lars Sivertsen
Spouse's Father: Ener Larsen
Family Search Transcription Link

Original churchbook record Link. See #101

Edited by - JaneC on 12/05/2015 01:25:49
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heathermckenzie
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New Zealand
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Posted - 12/05/2015 :  01:48:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi JaneC
I could attach a pdf of the marriage certificate but I don't know how to. I have a pdf of the death certificate also. I don't think Ole was particularly involved in a church as the marriage was at his home. By the time he was buried, cemeteries were run by local authorities so I don't think I would find church records. I have a jpg of the cemetery record but don't know how to attach that either. I have clicked on the image button in the "format" line but just get so I don't see how I can get the file from my computer.
I have only found the one marriage record for Ole in New Zealand so I think Marea/Maria came with him.
I am very happy with the amount of information we have got. Historical immigration passenger lists of NZ arrivals are being made available on line all the time as people transcribe them. Some lists were lost however so we may never know the exact date.

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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 12/05/2015 :  01:56:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, well no worries re attaching pdf. Not necessary.

Simon has seemingly died before 1875.

1875 census - Kristiania
Address: Ruseløkveien 42
Pauel Kristensen b 1829 brygarbeider
Ingeborg Enersdatter b 1836 Aker - wife
Ener Larssen born 1866 in Kristiania - son

This is likely Ingeborg in 1885:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01053257033766

1885 Kristiania
Address: Ruseløkveien 60
Ingeborg Kristensen born 1837 Aker
Einar Kristiansen b 1866 Kristiania
Ragna Kristiansen b 1874 Kristiania
Kristen Kristensen b 1876 Kristiania

And Ingeborg in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037045131062

1900 Kristiania
Ingeborg Kristensen b 1837 in Aker, widow
Ragna Syvertsen b 1874 Kristiania, daughter, married
Gerda Syvertsen b 1899 Kristiania daughter
Einar Larsen b 1866 Kristiania - Sømand (seaman)


Edited by - JaneC on 12/05/2015 03:56:31
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heathermckenzie
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New Zealand
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Posted - 12/05/2015 :  04:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am curious to sort out Lars Sivertsen's occupation
Eibacher posted about the family moving to Waaler (Våle) in 1856 and said carpenter - for Lars I presume.
For the 1865 census occupation for Lars is "Skomagerarbeider". What does that mean please?
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2015 :  04:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skoemager shoemaker

Norwegian occupations.

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Norway_Occupations#S


Edited by - AntonH on 12/05/2015 04:55:41
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 12/05/2015 :  14:50:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Einar Larsen b. 2 June 1866 Christiania #33: 34 my bad
Source information: Oslo county, Trefoldighet, Parish register (official) nr. II 3 (1881-1895), Confirmation records 1881, page 11.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5827&idx_id=5827&uid=ny&idx_side=-14

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/05/2015 18:06:54
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2015 :  17:26:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Einar Larsen b. 2 June 1866 Christiania #33:


Maybe #34?

Nice find tho!

Edited by - AntonH on 12/05/2015 17:27:05
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 14/05/2015 :  13:24:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#266 Ragna Pauline:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Trefoldighet, Ministerialbok nr. I 3 (1870-1876), Fødte og døpte 1874, side 228.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=693&idx_id=693&uid=ny&idx_side=-230

Wonder if Wilhelmine Larsen is connected to Ole? Or not possibly her in the 1875 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052055046050

Edited by - jkmarler on 14/05/2015 13:45:31
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saasen
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Norway
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Posted - 11/11/2015 :  10:00:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So far I can not help you find Ole Larsen, but I can tell you that most of what is posted here is correct. His sister Inger Karine who died in Moss is my great grandmother. Her grand daughter went to New Zealand in 1908. I always thought the family had a friend who was from NZ, but it must have been because of relatives that Inger Karines grand daughter went to NZ in 1908
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