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cdahl
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 Posted - 08/05/2015 : 23:53:17
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| We are now seeking information on Kornelius Sandnes, brother of Severin. We think he emigrated in about 1897 but cannot find him listed any place in the USA. We have family visiting from Norway and they think he might have settled in North Dakota or Montana. He died in 1908. Is there any record showing his death? Any help would be appreciated. Also concerning Serverin - he apparently went back and forth from Norway to USA at least 3 times. Are there any records kept showing his returns to Norway? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 01:38:59
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| So Kornelius is the brother Severin came to in US in 1905? Or was there another brother? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 01:48:20
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Here is a good candidate for Kornelius, using the Hansen name. You did not give a birth year which would be helpful in this case. He is traveling to LaMoure North Dakota. See the list from Jackie in your post on Severin for a list of Sandness folks in LaMoure.
Kornelius Hansen in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Kornelius Hansen
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1879
Date of Arrival: 18 May 1897
Vessel: Carthaginian
Search Ship Database: Search for the Carthaginian in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada; Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 01:57:19
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Same data on his trip in 1897, different data base.
Kornelius Hansen in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Kornelius Hansen
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1879
Departure Date: 6 May 1897
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Carthaginian
Search Ship Database: Search for the Carthaginian in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Allan Line
Master: John France |
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AntonH
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cdahl
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 04:41:54
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I'm sorry that I didn't include the birth date for Kornelius. He was born 3 March 1880. There were 5 brothers in the family: Kornelius, born 3 March 1880;
Severin, born 11 April 1884; Peter, born 28 December 1886; Johan, born 6 Jan 1889 and Hans, born Oct 1890. There was also the sister, Anne, born 16 August 1881. It is such a mystery of where Severin lived and why he went back and forth between Norway and USA. We think the first trip in 1905 was to his brother's Kornelius but we didn't know where he lived. We know that Peter, Hans and Anne all remained in the USA. We appreciate everyone's help! |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 04:55:00
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About records of Severin returning to Norway: As far as I know, the USA did not keep records of people leaving the country.
Original Churchbook Leaving Registration (Udflyttede)
Registering to leave the parish (Syvde i Vanylven) in 1897, destination Amerika,
Kornelius Peder Johan Hanssen Sandnæs, born 1880
1897
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Syvde i Vanylven, Ministerialbok nr. 502A03 (1885-1909), Utflyttede 1889-1899, side 240.
As posted in the earlier thread, Severin Johan Hansen Sandnæs traveling to his brother in North Dakota in 1905
And maybe you already talked about the brother Petter Hansen Sandnæs, headed to Lamour, North Dakota
1908
And the brother Johan Mathias Hansen Sandnæs, headed to Fargo, North Dakota
1908
And Hans Olaj Hansen Sandnæs, headed to family in Lemaure North Dakota
1911
And John again - Johan Hansen Sandnes born 6/1 1889 - destination North Dakota
1915
And Severin Hansen Sandness back again to Fargo, North Dakota
1915
Returning to America, Severin Johan Hansen Sandnes
1924
with Johan Mathias Hansen Sandnes
1924
Somewhat of a possibility that it may help to see their full names and emigration records grouped... |
Edited by - JaneC on 09/05/2015 13:42:37 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 07:10:43
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Hans Olai Johannesen was a widower when he married Martha Pedersdatter, see #8.
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Edited by - eibache on 09/05/2015 07:11:13 |
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eibache
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 07:22:45
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The birth record for Hans Olai, born Febr 14 1849, is #4.
His parents were Johannes Hansen and Anne Christensdatter, Sætre.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 09/05/2015 07:25:16 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 08:06:50
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Hans Olais first wife was Karen Rasmine Mortensdatter, they were married June 18 1876, see #2.
Karen Mortensdatter died in childbirth Jan 7 1878, see #2.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 09/05/2015 09:59:59 |
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eibache
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 08:19:31
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Hans Olais 2nd wife, Martha Pedersdatter, was born Jan 4 1846 (not in 1848 as given other places), see #1.
Her parents were Peder Paulsen and Mette Andersdatter, Aaram.
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Edited by - eibache on 09/05/2015 10:11:10 |
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eibache
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Posted - 09/05/2015 : 10:14:38
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Peder Paulsen and Mette Andersdatter were married July 8 1827, see #5.
Peder and Mette and 3 of their children in 1865.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2015 : 01:08:32
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| There appears to be no listing for a Kornelius /or Charley Sandness in the transcriptions of headstones published by RRVGS nor on find a grave. Also did not find him in the ELCA funerals database at archives.com |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/05/2015 : 04:28:21
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The people that Kornelius was living with in 1900 Census were Mathias Sandness and his wife. They lived in LaMoure County North Dakota in 1900, In 1910 they lived in Logan County,In 1920 US Census back in LaMoure County North Dakota.And In 1925 North Dakota Census in LaMoure County again and still there in the 1940 Census.
Looking at the WWI Draft Registration Card shows his birth date as 18 Mar 1878. So this is likely his baptism record. His father is listed as Adam Adamsen and mother is Anne Pedersdatter. They are listed as on the Sandness farm. Must have been a big farm.
See number 7
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6465&idx_id=6465&uid=ny&idx_side=-5
Probably Adam Adamsen in the 1865 Norwegian Census, maybe his first wife?
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1511&kenr=008&bnr=0032&lnr=000
And his baptism
Name: Adam Adamsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 nov 1830
Baptism Date: 14 nov 1830
Baptism Place: Vanylven, More Og Romsdal, Norway
Father: Adam Adamsen
Mother: Hilde Andersdr
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Edited by - AntonH on 10/05/2015 04:51:21 |
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