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kraftcj
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 Posted - 22/05/2015 : 02:24:11
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My Bruck relatives immigrated to Philadelphia, PA in August, 1890 from London via Liverpool. It was Peter Bruck, father, Emily Ann Hart Bruck, mother, Children: Katherine, Frederick, Arthur, Lavina, George, Charles, Emily. I can't find any information on the passenger list for this ship. Does anyone have any ideas. My information is based on the memory of one of the grandchildren of Peter.
Thank you. Cheryl. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 : 03:11:54
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Well the British Prince arrived in Philadelphia on Aug 25, 1890. I found no Peter Bruck. I did find an Emily Brown with a large family. Here is her record.
Emily Brown in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1963
Name: Emily Brown
Gender: Female
Birthdate: abt 1852
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 25 Aug 1890
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age on Arrival: 38 Years
Ship: British Prince
The children are
Kate 19
Fred 18
George 16
Lavina 15
Aurthur 13
Rudolph 11
Chas 9
Emily 8
Herman 7
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 : 03:32:52
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| The above list looks like the famly with addition of two children, Rudolph and Herman. However I can not find the father . Can you provide a birth year for Peter? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 : 03:43:59
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This looks like the family in the 1881 English Census. Except we are missing Herman and Emily. Not yet born.
Peter Bruck in the 1881 England Census
Name: Peter Bruck
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emily A. Bruck
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 3 Lillie Bridge Terrace
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Greengrocer
Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 72
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Bruck 35
Emily A. Bruck 29
Katherine Bruck 10
Frederick Bruck 9
George Bruck 7
Lavina Bruck 6
Arthur Bruck 5
Rudolph Bruck 3
Charles Bruck
Ellen Turner 17
Christina Turner 11
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 : 03:52:14
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This would appear to be him in the 1900 US Census and it does say that he arrived in 1890. Seems to not have family with him at this time.
Peter Bruck in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Peter Bruck
Age: 54
Birth Date: Mar 1846
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 20, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Marriage Year: 1870
Years Married: 30
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 : 04:50:10
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This is the record of the family minus Peter leaving the UK. The original document is partially destroyed so the last names of all the family has been wiped out. But the whole family is there, minus Peter.
Emily in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 13 Aug 1890
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Philadelphia, USA
Ship Name: British Prince
Search Ship Database: Search for the British Prince in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Master: Jm Well |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 : 06:26:30
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Here is an additional example of how the records look for Emily and the children. So far I have not found Peter in either the departure or arrival records.
Name: Fred
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1872
Departure Date: 13 Aug 1890
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Philadelphia, USA
Ship Name: British Prince
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kraftcj
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 16:27:33
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Well the British Prince arrived in Philadelphia on Aug 25, 1890. I found no Peter Bruck. I did find an Emily Brown with a large family. Here is her record.
Emily Brown in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1963
Name: Emily Brown
Gender: Female
Birthdate: abt 1852
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 25 Aug 1890
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age on Arrival: 38 Years
Ship: British Prince
The children are
Kate 19
Fred 18
George 16
Lavina 15
Aurthur 13
Rudolph 11
Chas 9
Emily 8
Herman 7
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kraftcj
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 16:30:19
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| That's the family....everything matches....thank you so very much for finding this information. Not sure where Peter was...but that's his wife and children. Everything matches with the notes I have from a distant cousin. Your time and effort in looking this up is sincerely appreciated! cheryl |
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kraftcj
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 16:51:45
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| The record from the distant cousin (peter's grandchild), states he was born March 9, 1846, however, I can't find any record on Family Search or Ancestry.com that has a Peter Bruck (Brueck) born in 1846 that makes sense--meaning, thrying to figure out where they got these children's names--as they always name their children after their parents, brothers or sisters. I found one born in 1845. in Prussia. I know there are different birth and christening dates....so I am concluding that maybe this Peter, born in Aug 1845 may be the correct Peter. If this is the correct Peter, then his father died in 1861 and his sister, Catharina, died in 1862 along with another sister, Elisabeth (they died a month apart). So I think that Peter left Prussia around that time and immigrated to England with a relative, as I can find no record of his father, mother, Mariae Magdelanae or his remaining siblings (Maria and Anna Maria) in any of the England census information for 1861, 1871, 1881. Thanks again for finding all this information for me. We were never able to confirm the British Prince information....and you figured it out....they had Emily listed as a "Brown". Cheryl |
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 17:14:23
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| Sounds as if you might have an Ancesty.com subscription,if so you take a look at the original records. |
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kraftcj
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 18:34:09
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| I used to have a subscription. I don't anymore. Did you find the passenger list on ancestry.com or on this site? Just wondering, as I can't figure out how to find passenger lists on this site, except those who traveled before 1875. I am going to go to our library, as they have some version of ancestry.com that I can use there, I think. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 20:44:40
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| This site covers 1825-1875 Norwegian voyagers. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/05/2015 : 02:57:43
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| If you run into a dead end, I have a suggestin. Ancestry.com allows the subscriber ie me to share a document with a friend ie you. I click the e-mail button and send you permision to view and download the document. To do that I will need an e-mail from you. You can send me an e-mail through the Norway Heritage e-mail system and I will share the document with you. |
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kraftcj
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Posted - 29/05/2015 : 18:52:48
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Originally posted by lyndal40
If you run into a dead end, I have a suggestin. Ancestry.com allows the subscriber ie me to share a document with a friend ie you. I click the e-mail button and send you permision to view and download the document. To do that I will need an e-mail from you. You can send me an e-mail through the Norway Heritage e-mail system and I will share the document with you.
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kraftcj
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British Prince, American Line, 1890
