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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 07/08/2015 : 01:44:53
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Sandsvær merged with Kongsberg 1964.
From the wedding record in Sigdal June 27.1845, hard to read but it looks like both were from Kongsberg and Benjamin was a widower. #17
Kåre
An important example of a research principle, again, if there are two records covering the same event, in this case a marriage, always look at both to find & mine any additional detail. In this example the addition of the place Kongsberg opens up more information. |
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KnudsonFamily
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USA
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Posted - 07/08/2015 : 04:14:21
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You wrote, "I'm trying to figure out why Olaus named changed to Wall. Any help would be appreciated. In the 1870 census he was in Dodgeville WI as Olavus Olson. His marriage was recorded as Olaus B. Wall. His death recorded as Olaus B. Wall."
The hard part is finding the correct farm from which Olaus B Wall took his surname. Now the researchers have done that.
Is it otherwise clear why the last name in US records changes? If so no need to read the following.
I did assume the B. initial was for Benjaminsen and Wall a farm but couldn't find it in any the records I found. Benjamin's daughter Gunheld did use the Benjamindtr as her maiden name in her marriage record and in the Iowa 1925 census listed her Father: Benjamin O Wall.
The area in Dodgeville they settled in briefly did have many Olsen/Olson. My own 2nd great grandfather was one of them. My ancestor bounced between Olsen, Skomaker, Sinderud, and Anderson.
I limited my search to Sigdal. I forgot to use the trick of using the 1801 census for the farm name. I wasn't thinking smart, I wrongly skipped using census information since the time of Benjamin's birth to migration didn't have a census. Hopefully that's a great tip other's can be reminded of from my mistake.
I limited it to Sigdal because that is where Olaus was born. I could not find Benjamin birth record Sigdal. When I got stuck, I turned to this board because your expertise, I did try to phrase my post for the limited nugget I'm after.
I appreciate the help and got a few great "how to" within people's answers. That's what is so cool about this board. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2015 : 23:17:54
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KnudsonFamily
Medium member
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2015 : 23:26:38
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| I certainly appreciate all the help. I knew in theory why the name was Wall but none of the records I found explained it. I didn't dig deep enough and I got stuck. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/08/2015 : 12:47:32
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Sandsvær merged with Kongsberg 1964.
From the wedding record in Sigdal June 27.1845, hard to read but it looks like both were from Kongsberg and Benjamin was a widower. #17
Kåre
I believe I have found Sigri Torstensdatters bapt. record.
She lived on Eiken-eie when she married Banjamin Olsen, I still do not understand why Kongsberg is written behind both names
She was 33 when she married, born ca 1812. Father was Torsten Torstensen.
Benjamin returned to Kongsberg from Modum 1843 so he did not stay long before he moved to Sigdal.
Sigdal 1812
Twinsisters Gunil and Sigri bapt. in Sigdal June 7. born Mai 13. 1812.
Father: Torsten Torstensen Eiken-eie, see 2. column from left #34-35
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KnudsonFamily
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Posted - 08/08/2015 : 18:07:15
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 Part of the back story for Benjamin did include quote:
Anders Elverum and Benjamin Olson were married to twin sisters. The Elverums came to the Iowa County area in about 1850 and the Olsons came in 1855.
Thanks again!
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 08/08/2015 : 20:19:29
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Amazing to verify that everything is correct 
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2015 : 20:53:47
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Originally posted by Kåarto
[quote]Originally posted by Kåarto
Sandsvær merged with Kongsberg 1964.
From the wedding record in Sigdal June 27.1845, hard to read but it looks like both were from Kongsberg and Benjamin was a widower. #17
Kåre
And Anders Christophersen Elverum was best man in the wedding above, see 1. column right page.
place of living: Eken-eiet.
Anders Elverum and Gunild Torstensdatter married in Sigdal April 1. 1844 and a son Christopher was born Nov. 9. 1845.
It must have been crowdy on Eken-eie in those days.
Kåre
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/08/2015 : 13:47:35
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Hvål, Kongsberg on a FINN kart (FINN map):
http://kart.finn.no/?lng=9.89188&lat=59.50366&zoom=17&mapType=normap&markers=9.89197,59.50366,r,Hv%C3%A5l
When I click the link above, I have to also click on "GPS locator" - don't know why. Get rid of the ad on the right by clicking the little arrow. Zoom and pan in this map to your liking; choose map or flyfoto (satellite) or hybrid view. With more than one section or subfarm of Hvaal existing, whether I've pinpointed the correct exact map point I don't know.
Below, the 1865 census again, list showing other farms in same census district as Hvall, Sandsvær (as Kåre pointed out, Sandsvær later merged with Kongsberg). You can see some of these farms nearby in the above map, to give a feel for the census district area.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/tellingskrets/tf01038095000508
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/08/2015 : 17:23:24
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It`s ca 20 minutes by car from Kongsberg to Hvål, Hvaal/Waal.
The father Ole Monsen (Mogensen) Firing b. ca 1765 origin unknown, died 1820.Firingplassen was valued to 80 Riksdaler, net value was 69 Riksdaler (ca 17 000 Kroner in 2014)
Guardian for the widow and children was the fathers brother Gunnar Solberg. The widow Marte Olsdatter ca 1784, unknown origin, died 1838.
The oldest som Mons (Mogems) Firing moved to a former subfarm under Hvål named Hvålsplasen, married 1859 Grete Karine Einarsdatter b. 1823. They lived on Hvålsplassen in 1865, later they bought farm Søndre Solum in Sandsvær.
The heirs sold Firingplassen to Sjul Halvorsen Hvål who in 1843 sold the farm back to Mons Olsen Firing.
He sold Firingplassen two years later to Kristoffer Olsen Steinarsplass.
Perhaps Benjamin Olsen was back in 1843 to get the inheritance after the parents.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 09/08/2015 18:40:00 |
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Where the Wall in Olaus B Wall come from
