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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 31/08/2015 : 01:15:44
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Time to close the lamp in Norway.
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 01:36:29
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Originally posted by Kċarto
You are welcome 
Shoemaker Ninus A. OLsen and Anne Kristine with 3 sons and a dau. in Oslo 1910
Kċre
that's great - but there is some concern that her date of birth has now changed twice - but my thought is that she has adequately said who her father was on the marriage record (with the occupation - and as he was addressed formerly) so it really has to be her despite this and the name change (which i have seen with her middle name at any rate used several different ways) |
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 01:39:15
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Time to close the lamp in Norway.
Kċre
and midday wishes from down under where spring has sprung - sleep well folks - and once again thanks from both myself and cousin Cyndy in the USA (she descends from a sister of Soren etc :) |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 01:44:10
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Nice work people!
Anna Kirstine family in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/nn-no/ft/person/pf01037045220989
Anne Kirstine was confirmed 20 April 1873 in Larvik; confirmation record posted on page one.
The 1883 marriage record says Anne Kirstine was confirmed 20 April 1873 in Larvik, father seaman Anders Iversen.
Clearly, the same girl. Some pesky discrepancies, but that's par for the course. A person called by his/her middle name often appears in records with first-middle names flipped. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 10:46:54
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The problem with dif. dates on the same person in various cencuses is not uncommon.
Remember it was no proofreading.
The Archives are aware ot that, but all dates even they are wrong are consistently used.
Proofreading will be done, but noone knows when since the work mostly are based on volunteers.
Add. information/correction on a person in one of the censuses is marked with a hammer as one can click on to read the new info and name of the person who has submittet
Everyone has the opportunity to submit corrections to the Archives.
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 11:13:47
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Anne Kirstine was confirmed 20 April 1873 in Larvik, as posted on page one.
The 1883 marriage record says Anne Kirstine was confirmed 20 April 1873 in Larvik, father seaman Anders Iversen.
Clearly, the same girl. Some pesky discrepancies, but that's par for the course. A person called by his/her middle name often appears in records with first-middle names flipped.
thank you - yes that does confirm her :) and i agree it seems to be a common thing with her brother Iver Thorvald who appears on the 1885, 1900 and 1910 census' simply as Thorvald Andersen.
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 11:16:19
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Originally posted by Kċarto
Add. information/correction on a person in one of the censuses is marked with a hammer as one can click on to read the new info and name of the person who has submittet
Everyone has the opportunity to submit corrections to the Archives.
cheers for your thoughts on this - of course its all good that people have been giving of their time to make these records available - so any mistakes, im not going to make too big a deal out of it - at least it makes it a nice wee challenge, and when things do get found you wind up more grateful for them :)
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 11:34:01
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I had a theory that may prove to be wrong - but as we know Anne Kirstine Andersen went to Oslo and had her family there, as did older brother Iver Thorvald (he married Bredine Knudsen in 1876), i had assumed (maybe wrong on my part, i know confirm confirm confirm - but sometimes you have to think outside of the square and then be proven right, or indeed wrong - and im fine with that either way) that brother Soren Andersen may have also gone there after the passing of his wife. This all made me think that perhaps their mother Johanne had gone there too - she was last seen in 1910 in Larvik....
the other brother Oluf appears with his wife until 1910 with 2 children Anna and Margit (we noted that on their marriage record, they have listed HER father as his), we know that Oluf and his wife both died in Larvik...we're not sure what happened to their daughters as yet though.
just looking through the Kristiana address books, i found a Johanne Iversen in 1913, 1914 and 1915:
Iversen, Johanne - Enke (widow) - Ribbungts 3 (and then a little 3 next to it) - which turns out to be a street named Ribbunggata, there appears to be a nice bed and breakfast looking place down that narrow street - just before the alleyway with the nasty tagging on the fence, hopefully she saw her days out in the lovely 2 story
house :)
i had a look and there were other Johanne's but one worked as a saleswoman, another a cashier - not something i can see a 90 something woman doing to pass her days :) (i recall she was blind on one of the census' at any rate)
which tells me there's a possibility she moved to Kristiana in 1911 or 1912 and died in 1914 or 1915 - is there any way that I may find a cemetery listing to deny or confirm this person as our dear old granny ? |
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breakfree
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 12:48:14
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| Yes this one 1885 says Fredrickhald an actual place in Norway but all the others say Baahuslan which was in Sweden, I think. |
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jkmarler
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 13:22:24
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| Hi all - Richard, that's an excellent description of a basic, necessary methodology - identify a candidate and formulate a hypothesis it is the right person, and focus a search on that candidate to rule him/her in or out. The widow Johanne Iversen you found in Oslo is a worthy candidate. We need to figure out which parish in Oslo she's in, as a starting point for a search for her death in (possibly) Oslo. Maybe same as one of the children... |
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 13:27:53
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a search engine for burials in Oslo. Customs do vary and even if she was buried there then, she may not still be there.
http://www.begravdeioslo.no/maler/grav/grave_id/7858
thanks for that link (loads of Iversen's there, but not her unfortunately) - it seems shes not there, the only rellie i found was Anne Kirstine's son - buried with a mass of other Olsen's
Grave: 20.407
Name: Alf Gustav Olsen
Cemetery: Vestre gravlund
Date Of Birth: 1886-07-09
a potential wife ???
Grave: 20.407
Name: Karoline Mathilde Olsen
Cemetery: Vestre gravlund
Date Of Birth: 1888-04-04
Date Of Death: 1962-12-31
and a potential son ??? (that whole naming a kid after yourself thing :p
Grave: 20.407
Name: Alf Erling M Olsen
Cemetery: Vestre gravlund
Date Of Birth: 1914-04-17
Date Of Death: 1980-12-23 |
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 13:31:04
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Originally posted by JaneC
Hi all - Richard, that's an excellent description of a basic, necessary methodology - identify a candidate and formulate a hypothesis it is the right person, and focus a search on that candidate to rule him/her in or out. The widow Johanne Iversen you found in Oslo is a worthy candidate. We need to figure out which parish in Oslo she's in, as a starting point for a search for her death in (possibly) Oslo. Maybe same as one of the children...
thanks JaneC - i thought you were going to tell me i was mad as a hatter for my theory :) - i had a look at the Kristiana deaths, but nothing there in that timeframe fits. I may just bite the bullet and go through every parish tomorrow - will go and get a good sleep and prepare myself (with plenty of coffee to flow i think) |
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Torstensen/Iversen/Andersen - Norway
