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Anne Brit Benum
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 Posted - 14/12/2015 : 13:43:18
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...was born in Vestre Slidre July 28, 188. His parents were John Andersen and Ingeborg Knutsdaughter.April 6, 1906, he left Oslo for Iowa on the Salmo ship (agent: Elster). The ticket was paid already. He was an 18-year-old , unmarried worker. What is possible to find about him?
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JaneC
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 15:19:30
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 17:28:41
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A tough one Annie. There are seven Andrew or Andy Johnsons born in Norway 1887 plus/minus 2 years arriving in 1906 listed in the 1910 US Census.. None living in Iowa.
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1910
(City, County, State) Birth Year Birthplace Relation to Head of House View Image
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Andreas Johnson
Kolls, Lyman, South Dakota abt 1886 Norway Hired Man
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Andrew Johnson
Austin Ward 3, Mower, Minnesota abt 1886 Norway Boarder
View Record
Andrew Johnson
Everett Ward 2, Snohomish, Washington abt 1886 Norway Lodger
View Record
Andrew Johnson
Great Falls, Cascade, Montana abt 1887 Norway Hired Man
View Record
Anders Johnson
New Astoria, Clatsop, Oregon abt 1887 Norway Head
View Record
Andrew Johnson
Wrangell, Division 1, Alaska Territory abt 1888 Norway Partner
View Record
Andy Johnson
Wheelock, Williams, North Dakota abt 1888 Norway Boarder
View Record
Andrew Johnson
Chicago Ward 35, Cook, Illinois abt 1888 Norway Roomer |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/12/2015 17:30:09 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 17:39:19
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Trying to find him under Anders Sorengen, I do find this
Anders Sorengen
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Anders Sorengen
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 4 Apr 1906
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Oceanic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Oceanic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Master: Johan Cameron
Well I found him in the original manifest for the Oceanic arriving in New York on April 21, 1906. He is listed as Sorengen, Anders Johanesen age 19 from V Slidre and is going to Lake Mills, Iowa. An ureadable name is listed for person he is travelling to. Best guess is uncle a grauheim??
I have no idea how Ancestry.com has transcribed his name as I have been unable to identify a transcribed record for him.
Lake Worth,Iowa is in Winnebago County. |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/12/2015 23:02:27 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 23:09:17
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Here is a candidate in the 1910 Census living in Winneabago Iowa.The arrival year is however 1908 not 1906.
Andrew Johnson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Johnson
Age in 1910: 22
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Buffalo, Winnebago, Iowa
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1908
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Common Labor
Industry: Farm Work
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry H Hanken 34
Maggie Hanken 27
Henry Hanken 7
Hilke Hanken 5
Mary Hanken 0
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Andrew Johnson 22
Dena Gertes 13
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 23:13:56
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Probably the same guy in the 1915 Iowa Census, Still single
Andreas Johnson
in the Iowa, State Census Collection, 1836-1925
Name: Andreas Johnson
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: Norway
Residence Date: 1915
Residence Place: Logan, Winnebago, Iowa, USA
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Birth Place: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andreas Johnson 28
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 23:29:14
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Probably the same man. Appears as if he married the girl Dena Gerdes who was living with the Hanken family that he was living with in the 1910 Census. Here his immigration year is given as 1904?
Andrew Johnson
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Johnson
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Marion, Turner, South Dakota
House Number: Farm
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1904
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Dena Johnson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Employment Field: Own Account
Naturalization Status: Alien
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Johnson 34
Dena Johnson 22
Mildred Johnson 4
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Muriel Johnson 2
[2 9/12]
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 23:32:44
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In 1930 back to Iowa, immigratin year is again 1908
Andrew Johnson
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Johnson
Birth Year: abt 1888
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Ledyard, Kossuth, Iowa
Map of Home: View Map
House Number in Cities or Towns: April 10
Dwelling Number: 73
Family Number: 74
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: Yes
Age at First Marriage: 25
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1908
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: Farm
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Johnson 42
Dene Johnson 34
Mildred Johnson 14
Muriel Johnson 13
May J Johnson 7
Melba Johnson 4
Marvin Johnson 2
[2 7/12]
Maynard Johnson 0
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 00:13:01
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His baptism record see number 11 July 28, 1887.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4079&idx_id=4079&uid=ny&idx_side=-17
Name: Anders Andersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 jul 1887
Baptism Date: 11 sep 1887
Baptism Place: Røn, Oppland, Norway
Father's Age: 1862
Mother's Age: 1863
Father: John Andersen
Mother: Ingebjorg Knutsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282584
Reference ID: b3 p13 n11 |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/12/2015 00:16:53 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 00:26:26
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The FAG site for Deane Johnson shows a gravestone for her and probably her husband. Her husband birth year is listed as 1885 and his death as 1969. Hee is an Andrew Johnson that seems to fit that. However his birth date does not fit that listed for Anders Johnson from Vestre Slidre.
Andrew Johnson
in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014Name: Andrew Johnson
SSN: 479-28-1524
Last Residence:
56258 Marshall, Lyon, Minnesota, USA
BORN: 25 Feb 1888
Died: Aug 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Iowa (Before 1951)
The Iowa marriage record for Dena Gertes and Andrew does not fit very well either with the data provided by Anne above. Here is the marriage record.
Andrew G Jahens
in the Iowa, Marriage Records, 1880-1937
Name: Andrew G Jahens
Birth Year: abt 1887
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 26
Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1913
Marriage Place: Winnebago, Iowa, USA
Father: Johanna Jahens
Mother: Anna Kucklan
Spouse: Dena Gerdes |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/12/2015 02:00:31 |
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 10:28:11
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| Fantastic - thank you so VERY much to you! |
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 12:52:22
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Hi Anne, yes it is fantastic help, help to search, and often more than one candidate must be researched before the answer is found. In this case the Andrew investigated by lyndal40 was well worth pursuing, BUT he is NOT your Andrew.
Lyndal40 has done the work necessary to rule this candidate out.
Have you noticed an important clue lyndal40 found? On the passenger manifest for your Anders traveling in 1906, says he is traveling to someone. The manifest is hard to read. Maybe it says "uncle -?-."
Perhaps you have a family tree that includes your Andrew. Maybe you already know who Andrew's uncles are. You can post the names of his uncles and tell which ones emigrated. Or you can look at the passenger manifest yourself to see what it says. It may be easier for you to read it, since you have an idea of the names it might say. |
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 12:58:52
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| Anders' parents are John Andersen and Ingeborg/Ingebjørg Knutsdaughter. John Andersen's wife was Anne Johnsdaughter, and two of her brothers - Peder and Gunder Johnsen - emigrated with their wives via Bergen to Quebec and ended up in Minnestoa. Anders' mother was the oldest of all the brothers and sisters, and she had also a much younger sister,who also was baptized Anne. Even she with her husband left Norway via Bergen - and one her descendants is now living with his family in Hugo in Minnesota. HIS name is Lawrence Turner! This is what I can tell you so far! |
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JaneC
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 13:10:33
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| Would you please say the same again but in more detail? Your Anders might be near these families. |
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 15/12/2015 : 14:35:09
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| The details I can give you now, are: Peder Johnsen Tuff w as born on May 27 in 1829 and baptized June 10 the same year. Confirmation took place July 28, 1844. His parents were John pedersen Fudske and Barbro Gundersdaughter. He married Marit Evensdaughter, Snortheim, in Røn Church in Slidre August 31, 1853. March 25, 1867, they left Norway. Marit Evensdaughter was born October 24, 1827 and baptized November 4, 1827. Confirmation: October 2, 1842. Pa rents: Even Evensen and Ingeborg Olsdaughter. Peder's brother was born July 7, 1843 and baptized July 16 the same year. Confirmation: May 29, 1859. His wife was Thora Pedersdaughter, who was born April 17, 1864. This couple emigrated also March 25, 1867. According to US Federal Census 1870, Gunder and Thora stayed in Winnebago, Iowa. Gunder died March 8, 1914. I have not been able to find the emigration protocols via Bergen to Quebec - but today's relatives have told me that Bergen and Quebec was their original plans. Peder and Gunder's youngest sister Anne was born April 24, 1848, and baptized June 1 the same year. Confirmation: June 28, 1863. She married Lars Alfsen Jarstad December 27, 1873, and they left Oslo May 8, 1874. (Emigrant-protocols 1871-1930). |
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