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Fentart
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 Posted - 19/02/2016 : 20:36:19
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This should take you to the list of Oslo probate / estate records. Devils go where angel fear to tread. Good luck.
That's amusing, jk. We all seem to be devilishly obsessed with genealogy. I'll plunge in and pray for resurrection afterward.
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Fentart
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Posted - 19/02/2016 : 20:39:50
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Jane and Jan Peter,
Thanks for the feedback on proper attribution and references. It's not that I fear being thrown in the slammer, but I would like to take responsibility for crediting the source of information based on work of others. |
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Fentart
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Posted - 19/02/2016 : 21:13:19
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| Anna Lund's father, Jens Gabriel Michael Lund, is always referred to as a '‘skibskaptein" (ship captain). Does that word imply in what kind of ship? E.g., the Norwegian navy (a naval officer), or the merchant marine, or could it even be captain of a fishing boat out of Farsund, where he lived? |
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Gustav Onarheim
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Kåarto
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 00:58:33
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Originally posted by Fentart
Anna Lund's father, Jens Gabriel Michael Lund, is always referred to as a '‘skibskaptein" (ship captain). Does that word imply in what kind of ship? E.g., the Norwegian navy (a naval officer), or the merchant marine, or could it even be captain of a fishing boat out of Farsund, where he lived?
Farsund (directly translated to "The navigable strait") has for centuries been visited by foreign merchant ships who sought shelter in its calm harbor. Eventually commerce became increasingly important. Dutch lobster exports were an important industry.
But it was only towards the end of the 1700s that Farsund emerged as a commercial and shipping town, which was well known out there in the world.
Much of the credit for Farsunds progress at the time was Jens Gabriel Michael Lund's uncle, Jochum Brinch Lund (1743-1807), and he is regarded as the Farsund city founder (Farsund got city status in 1795).
The Lund dynasty literally owned the town Farsund in the 1700s. They owned the city ground and had the most splendid houses, and most of the city's fleet belonged to them. They were traders and owned the shipyards and factories. They literally ran Farsund as a private enterprise. Jochum Lund was the most enterprised and powerful of them, and already at his time he was known as "The King of Farsund".
In 1829, Jens Gabriel Lund captained the ship Eucharis on several commerce trips from Arendal to London.
April 18th 1832: Ship Eucharis with Captain Jens Lund from Christiania (Oslo) to Cherbourg, France with lumber. Returned to Christiania on June 21st with ballast. A new trip with timber to Cherbourg was done around July 4th, back in Christiania with ballast around August 20th.
I've seen him as captain on Eucharis 1826-1832. From 1828-1834, he was the captain of the Brig Hercules. In 1831, J. G. Lund mastered the Hercules with rye from Riga, Latvia. In 1834, he was the shipowner of "Wilhelm".
March 1841: J.G. Lund mastered the Brig Wilhelm with Raisins from Cephalonia, Greece to Szczecin, Poland.
In 1837, after Jens had left the Hercules, the brig went with grains from Baltiysk (Russia) to New York.
The brig was also engaged with commerce in The Mediterranean, Madeira and The West Indies.
Later it was also used as an emigrant ship out of Farsund. as one of the first emigrant ships from Norway.
Thus, Jens Gabriel Lund was a captain of major merchant ships from Farsund, doing business all over Europe and likely even other continents.
Jens died in a shipwreck in '43. The helmsman Jonas Jonassøn Lund (1811-1843) who was the nephew of Jens Gabriel, perished in the same accident.
Brig Hercules, built in England in 1821
Bergens Stiftstidende, 1843.01.15:
"According to a letter from Buevaag, dated January 10th, Captain Jens Lund from Farsund, commanding a brig vessel, has had a fatal shipwreck 2 days ago on the island Hviddingsø (Kvitsøy, Rogaland). There were 60 persons onboard, all presumably seeking work at the Fishery. Be noted however, that there exist various other roumors about the ships fate."
Thus; Jens G. Lund died/drowned January 8th, 1843.
Edit: Most likely January 4th, 1843, according to other reports. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 20/02/2016 21:45:57 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 15:15:37
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Den Norske Rigstidende, January 14th, 1843:
"From a letter from Stavanger County to the Department of Treasury, we copy the following:
The commenced herring fishing season at Skudenes and Kvitsøy didn't last long, since the herring again has disappeared. The troubled and stormy weather is the reasonably cause. In addition to several accidents the bad weather have caused, the county has been informed by the customs officer at Kvitsøy, that a ship has stranded on the West coast of the Kvitsøy island in the stormy weather in the afternoon of January 4th.
The ship is the brig Wilhelm of Farsund, commanded by Jens Gabr. Lund, headed for the herring fishery on this island. It is totally shipwrecked, and no people have been saved. Roumors say there were several teams of fishermen onboard, a total of about 40 men, plus their boats and fishing equipment. The bad weather made that noone from the island could come to rescue. Wreckage has come ashore on a number of places around the islands; fishing equipment, chests, empty barrels etc, and at the shipwreck location lies a totally broken wreck.
The customs officer has done everything possible to save whatever was found, and as soon as the county received the notification from him, the county bailiff was orded to travel there and be in charge of the rescue of the wreckage and goods. This tragic accident has without any doubt removed the provider from many families, and caused them a woefully future."
Fishermen with herring at Kvitsøy (photo 1880 - 1920) |
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Fentart
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 21:16:07
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Originally posted by Gustav Onarheim
Hi
Here is a newer book
http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/64656289bbd3b098d9de3561d5ae7bb6#13
Gustav Onarheim
Well done, Gustav. I forgot my Norwegian cousins had deposited a copy with the National Library in 1992. The Canadian Hertzbergs--of whom I am one--are listed in pp. 83-94 of this book.
My own family stories flesh out (now with the gracious help of experts on this site) some of the lives described in the previous 3 family books (the first one was published in 1882) and continue into the future. Long live the Hertzbergs and the Lunds. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 22:20:01
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Morgenbladet 1862.02.25
The widow after Jens Gabriel died after a prolonged and painful illness at Rigshospitalet (hospital in Oslo) on February 15th, 1862.
(1862 is correct. The short note has a typo in the date.)
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Fentart
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 22:39:15
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...Thus, Jens Gabriel Lund was a captain of major merchant ships from Farsund, doing business all over Europe and likely even other continents.
Jens died in a shipwreck in '43. The helmsman who was his newphew also died. ...
Dear Jan Peter (jwiborg), Man, that's wonderful information about my 3 x great-grandfather, Jens Lund, the ship captain, and about Farsund. The family history books mentioned above only give the year of his death (and no reason). I can now add to that.
I will get to work translating (or trying to) the newspaper clippings.
You've made lots of his descendants pretty excited. Tusen tak.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 23:23:33
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Originally posted by Fentart
I will get to work translating (or trying to) the newspaper clippings.
You've made lots of his descendants pretty excited. Tusen tak.
Fentart
You're welcome.
The newspaper clippings about Jens Gabriel's fate are already translated (in quotes), at my best efforts... 
Proclamations
Death
That our belowed Mother, widow Anne Margrethe Lund, after a prolonged and painful illness slept to the Lord on Saturday the 15th this month, at the age of 57, are hereby announched to absent family and friends of her surviving children.
Christiania, February 19th, 1862. |
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JaneC
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2016 : 23:59:43
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Originally posted by JaneC
link won't hold...
Tip: You can use http://bit.ly to shorten the url. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 21/02/2016 : 00:54:55
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The church book from Farsund Parish register confirms the death date of Jens Gabriel. Below the very last records from December of 1843 are 7 men and 1 girl listed, with a death date of January 4th, 1843:
22. Captain Jens Gabriel Lund, 50
23. Jonas Lund, 32
24. Abraham Tollisen, 42
25. Niels Josephsen, 30
26. John ... Jansen, 52
27. Bernt Berentsen Fidje, 22 ¾
28. Christian Johannesen, 18
29. girl Cathrine Josephsdatter, 27
The comments behind these listings are a bit hard to decipher, but I think it says:
"These persons that ... reported as shipwrecked on the given date. No corpse has been located."
"Disse Personer som ... annmeldte at som forliste med et skip på anførte dato. Ingen Liig gjenfunden." |
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JaneC
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Posted - 21/02/2016 : 01:17:19
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Originally posted by JaneC
link won't hold...
Tip: You can use http://bit.ly to shorten the url.
Oh - so, start with http:/ then the URL / and add bit.ly
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