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dwssnell
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 Posted - 05/03/2016 : 01:23:21
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Thank you. That would be over a year after the birth of his illegitimate son with Marthe Olsdatter Gjedrud, but that is entirely possible.
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/03/2016 : 01:52:57
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Here is the Ancestry.com record for the marriage of Lars Christiansen and Eli Wernsdatter (also spelled Vernsdatter). in 1809.
Lars Christensen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Lars Christensen
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1809
Marriage Date: 23 okt 1835 (23 Oct 1835)
Marriage Place: Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Christen Hansen
Spouse: Elie Wernsdr
FHL Film Number: 124362
See also number 59
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9079&idx_id=9079&uid=ny&idx_side=-366 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/03/2016 02:20:07 |
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dwssnell
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Posted - 05/03/2016 : 02:14:15
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Thank you!
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2016 : 02:27:25
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| Question for you, The two sons of Christian Larsen and Annie Olsdatter are named Mathias and Ole. If Ole is the second son that fits as Annie must be the son of an Ole. However why the Mathias, why not Lars? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/03/2016 : 03:23:32
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Using the search function of Ancestry.com here are the four candidates from Ringsaker born Lars father Christian (or with a K) born in Ringsaker 1805 plus/minus 10 years.
View Record Name Birth Date Baptism Date Baptism Place Relatives
View Record
Lars Christensen
10 nov 1808 13 nov 1808 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Christen,
Maria
Same as Kåre found see below as well as this link
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9072&idx_id=9072&uid=ny&idx_side=-83
View Record
Lars Kristensen
13 apr 1809 23 apr 1809 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Kristen,
Berte
See middle of left page Same as Kåre see below and this link, and the Geni.com famly tree.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9074&idx_id=9074&uid=ny&idx_side=-20
View Record
Lars Christiansen
8 des 1814 (8 Dec 1814) 18 des 1814 (18 Dec 1814) Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Christian,
Anne
See number 9
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6009&idx_id=6009&uid=ny&idx_side=-9
View Record
Lars Christiansen
25 nov 1815 26 nov 1815 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Christian,
Arine
See number 135 Same as found by Kåre see below
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6009&idx_id=6009&uid=ny&idx_side=-20
I think these four are your choices. They are all from Ringsaker and they include all of those found by Kåre as well as one additional one I found in Ancestry. I do not see why you would go outside of Ringsaker to Hof since Hof is not mentioned in any of the records you have posted. The problem for you is there is no easy one to chose among these candidates.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/03/2016 : 02:34:31
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Here are the farms under each of the Bruget farms in Ringsaker taken from the list of farms in the property section at the Digitalarkivet:
Bruget mellem (Gnr 459)
Bruget mellem (Bnr 1) 4.2
Brugsveen (Bnr 2) 4.2
Steine (Bnr 3) 4.2
Bruget nordre (Gnr 458)
Bruget nordre (Bnr 1) 4.2
Gammelengen (Bnr 2) 4.2
Vangen (Bnr 3) 4.2
Vangstuen (Bnr 4) 4.2
Bruget søndre (Gnr 460)
Bruget søndre (Bnr 1) 4.2
Brugets skole (Bnr 3) 4.2
Sørbruksmarka (Bnr 2) 4.2 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/03/2016 03:26:56 |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/03/2016 : 02:47:49
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Here are the Lars Christianson confirmations in Ringsaker from about 1823-1837:
#529 pg 550 Lars Christianson Brandboe confirmed 1824 age 15 years. (no parents are named)
#548 pg ____ Lars Christenson Nordbrugvangen 1826 age 17
(no parents are named)
#13 pg 206 Lars Christanson Samsbel (?)____ age 14
parents Christian Olsen and Anne Olsdtr res on Lille kolstadeie or Lille Rolstadeie
#27 pg 229 Lars Christiansoen b. 27 Nov 1815 on Sørlibannen paa Brottum, 1832 parents are Christian Hansen and Anne Larsdtr
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/03/2016 : 02:58:34
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Looking over the data again, I wonder if the connection between all of the families is Lars Christiansen of Brottrum. He certainly had one son named Christian. He can be found in the 1865 with the family as Jackie posted much earlier and I will post again.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038031011832
His baptims record is here. from 1836., see number 98.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9079&idx_id=9079&uid=ny&idx_side=-84
Perhaps before he had this son Christian in Hedmark, he had ventured up to Fåberg and fostered a son in 1835 with a woman not his wife. That would explain the occurance of the Bruge, Nordbruget, Borottum, and Nordhaugen popping up a lot.
Here again is his baptism record and 1865 Census as posted before by Jackie etc.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9280&idx_id=9280&uid=ny&idx_side=-23
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038031013770
I am sure that I am not the first person for whom that has occured but it is a tough one to prove.
Of course, illegitimacy makes it tough, so you have to rely on the preponderance of evidence and circumstantial evidence, every little hint there is But in the confirmations there is only one who was either born on a Bruget farm or who resides on a Bruget farm about 15 years later.
Well, we don't know a thing about Christian Larsen's mother's movement, maybe she is the one who left Faaberg and went to Ringsaker and came [back to] Faaberg.
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/03/2016 : 03:22:40
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/03/2016 : 03:30:03
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I must have gapped when writing my notes as I worked... |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/03/2016 04:05:44 |
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eibache
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eibache
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Posted - 06/03/2016 : 11:06:53
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And that would be Lars the son of Christian Hansen and Berte Larsdoter ?
I read Christen Hansen. |
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Verifying ancestors!
