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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/03/2016 :  16:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geiterud is located south and east of Lillehammer, near the border between Ringsaker and Faaberg, in fact is the last farm on that road inside Faaberg. Nordhagen (Nordhagan) on Puttenborg (Puttenberg) is the first farm in Ringsaker on that road, the next farm is Puttenberg. The two farms Geiterud and Nordhagan are almost spitting distance from each other.

Look at www.1881.no for Puttenberg, in Lismarka, Hedmark.
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/03/2016 :  17:07:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe in the grasping at straws department, there this Lars Christiansen born in 1816 in the 1865 Census. living on Engsveen, married but the child was not born until 1858.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0412&kenr=015&bnr=0018&lnr=000

He was marrried in 1842 and the marriage record does mention Nord. . See number 29

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6013&idx_id=6013&uid=ny&idx_side=-313

Probably his baptism record number 136 bottom of the page

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6009&idx_id=6009&uid=ny&idx_side=-20

Edited by - AntonH on 11/03/2016 23:09:25
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/03/2016 :  18:52:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks more like Nordfreng to me than Nordhagen.
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eibache
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Posted - 11/03/2016 :  19:58:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geiterud, Nordhagan and Puttenberg on this map, if it works.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 11/03/2016 21:08:46
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Kċarto
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Posted - 11/03/2016 :  23:38:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Puttenberg in Lismarka,Ringsaker

Kċre
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/03/2016 :  01:39:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Geiterud, Nordhagan and Puttenberg on this map, if it works.




It does and if you zoom out and see "Brukroa" that is where the Bruget farms are, then zoom in and see Brukvangen and nordre Bruget.
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dwssnell
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Posted - 12/03/2016 :  02:03:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know on the 1865 census for Christian Larsen, Anne Olsdatter, Mathias Christiansen, Maria Christiansdatter and Guri Olsdatter (Christian's aunt), it says municipality Ringsaker, #0412, and Name of domicile: Nordhagen. And on their immigration record in 1871, they give his last name as Christian Larsen Nordhagen, Residence, Ringsaker. The ones who left from Oslo were Christian Larsen, 36. Anne Olsen, 37. Mathias , 12, and Ole, 1. Maria died at age 6 before they left Norway.
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dwssnell
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Posted - 12/03/2016 :  02:06:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the maps, that is interesting to see the locations. The farms in Hedmark are the ones I haven't been to yet of my ancestors, so that will entail one more trip to Norway!
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/03/2016 :  12:31:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

quote:
Originally posted by eibache

You g. grandfather was born and baptized in Faaberg (not Ringsaker as said in the 1865 census), see #212.



Not sure if this Christian Larson on Nordhagen is yours or not but might be of interest:

Kildeinformasjon: Protokollnummer: 4.3, Sted: Nord-Hedmark sorenskriveri, Ringsaker tinglag, Oppbevaringssted: SAH
Merknader: Brĝttum sokn, gnr. 493-527.
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-tl20071030340787.jpg



Roughly translating the first actions on Nordhagen:
1. The farm was formed on 30 October 1861 and then sold by Halvor Halvorson to Christian Larson for 200 sp. on 7 December 1861.

In the notes on this entry it says:
"Udgaaet fra Putten nordre Lf 463a, G.N. 497 BN1"
"Outcoming from north Putten ", so Nordhagen was created from the Putten farm, this farm Nordhagen, as a separate farm, didn't exist until 1861.

So if you had followed the road you took to Geiterud beyond Geiterud when you traveled to Faaberg, the very next farm you would have encountered would have been Christian Larson's Nordhagen in Ringsaker. Christian Larson could easily have lived on Geiterud and famed Nordhagen at the same time.

Hindkleiv the farm Iver Olson (and probably your Marthe) is on in 1865 is also the last farm on its road in Faaberg. The next farm south is in Ringsaker.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/03/2016 :  13:24:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dwsswell has posted this on the old Christian Larson topic:

"Those of you who thought that my Lars Christensen was the one from Brugvangen/Vangen/Wangen are correct. I got in touch with the genealogist in Brottum who helped write the latest bygdeboker and he agrees with that theory also. Thank you so much! That means that he was the father of my g. g. grandfather Christian Larsen, who was illegitimate, in 1835 with Marthe Gjedrud, then married Eli Vernsdatter that same year and had a legitimate son named Kristian in 1836. Quite a guy!"
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dwssnell
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Posted - 24/03/2016 :  22:23:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JK Marler, Thank you so much for the information on Nordhagen. So 10 years after they bought the farm, Christian and Anne Larson left for America. The immigrated to American in 1871 and their immigration records actually has Nordhagen as their last name.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/03/2016 :  22:41:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Technically, Nordhagen was their address rather than an inheritable surname as we practice here in America.
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dwssnell
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Posted - 25/03/2016 :  00:58:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right, but on Anne's record is actually says Anne Nordhagen, and she was from Saeterbakken!
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/03/2016 :  06:19:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Presumably her address was Nordhagen when she is listed that way and Saeterbakken when she lived there....
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